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This sounds like GM is committing brand suicide by actively making itself unappealing to Gen Z. https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/01/06/gen-z-survey-says... I love Android, but I also know how to read.
I guess I won't have to look out for them in the future.
> GM’s move to restrict access to CarPlay and Android Auto […] will help the automaker capture more data on its customers’ driving, listening, and charging habits. It could also help inform future subscription products, as automakers across the board are seeking to generate more revenue beyond just selling cars. Yeah no thanks. I have a 2023 Chevy Bolt EUV that I absolutely love, but I will not be buying another GM v…
the "help" they are referring to is offloading the transmission of these parameters to your wireless device vs their built-in wireless device ($$$)
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I agree. I wish there were bare-bare-bones options with a radio and ac/heat. I will use my phone otherwise.
Yea agree so much with this. I just want a car with physical knobs and buttons bluetooth to connect to my phone's audio. Have to buy ~10 year old cars to get this.
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Not to mention, isn’t CarPlay just an interface for the phone to be able to connect to so the screen can display the software operating on the phone? Near zero cost to GM, tons of convenience for GM’s customers. I can only imagine GM wants customers’ data or subscription fees, and Apple will not allow that. And this is a business that got bailed out by US taxpayers, and is explicitly too big to fail.
problem is (from GM's perspective), with CarPlay, Apple takes over the UX of the car...the Apple logo is the first and last thing people see when driving GM doesn't want Apple or Google taking over the UX of the car, because then GM is eventually just another FoxConn and sure, there's a money thing...they want revshare from Spotify and every other app they can position in the UI CarPlay and Android Auto will be gone…
This will also be an opportunity for other car manufacturers to differentiate themselves: “We still support CarPlay”
> GM’s move to restrict access to CarPlay and Android Auto […] will help the automaker capture more data on its customers’ driving, listening, and charging habits. It could also help inform future subscription products, as automakers across the board are seeking to generate more revenue beyond just selling cars. Yeah no thanks. I have a 2023 Chevy Bolt EUV that I absolutely love, but I will not be buying another GM v…
1. GM cars suddenly sell for $2-3k less than competition
2. Competition scrambles to catch up, implements similar shenanigans to monetize the car computer
3. No more unrestricted CarPlay
But I'm 100% sure it won't be like that. I'm also 100% sure, the reason they plan to do it, is to force people into OnStar subscription for data. I'm not paying $35+ per month when I have phone in my pocket.
I’ll remain open minded about this, but it seems unwise to go all-in with android and abandon Apple for even the most expensive cars. Are people who buy Cadillacs (who probably own iPhones) not going to mind not having CarPlay? Or will they buy a BMW or Mercedes instead? When you’re dropping $75k on a car, you expect it not to have any compromises.
As other commenters have said, people dismiss $75k+ cars all the times for things like "this shade of exterior paint is too light/dark" or "I don't like how the shifter feels" or "this doesn't have ambient lighting." In that context "this car won't integrate with your phone so you'll need to rely on shoddy BT at best" is a pretty major issue.
I wouldn't buy a toyota I wanted simply because it didn't have Carplay and their infotainment sucked.
I would never buy a car that did not support both Android Auto and CarPlay. In fact, that is why I did not buy a Prius. The software in a Chevy Bolt EV is unbelievably bad, taking several second to respond to presses of the power button, which means your awful experience starts from the moment you get in the car. I suggest that GM mercifully assign each and every member of their software division to literally any oth…
I see nothing has changed despite Tesla existing for over 10 years now.
Even though the Tesla doesn't support CarPlay, it doesn't have to, because its native UI is great (and responsive!)
Very shortsighted IMHO. By keeping both they will be broadening the appeal of their cars to a larger segment of the market. All in favor of a subscription model?? "Buyers of GM EVs with the new systems will get access to Google Maps and Google Assistant, a voice command system, at no extra cost for eight years, GM said. GM said the future infotainment systems will offer applications such as Spotify's music service, A…
I think they would argue the shortsighted plan would be to stick with CarPlay and Android Auto because they are here now and work. The long term plan is to control in-car hardware/software and find ways to generate revenue from it. Maybe the real money is in services? It's possible they may sell fewer cars, but make more money overall. The article says they think they can generate $20-$25 billion of subscription reve…
I don't care if it's "rational" behavior for the business; it's disgusting and shouldn't be allowed. The good of society should always come before increasing profits even higher for already-massive, already-highly-profitable companies.