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Is this how product placement and advertisements find their way in? I am anticipating the usefulness to decline in the same way google.com search has by being so absolutely inundated with ads. Maybe I am cynical

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Everyone's been talking about how ChatGPT will disrupt search, but looking at the launch partners, I think this has the potential to completely subvert the OS / App Store layer. On some level, how much do I need an OpenTable app if I can use voice/text input and a multi-modal response that will ultimately book my reservation? Not saying mobile's going away, but this could be the thing that does to mobile what mobile…

We have reached "peak UI". In the future we're not going to need every service to build four different versions of their app for every major platform. They can just build a barebones web app and the AI will use it for you, you'll never have to even see it.

IMO you won't even need to build the app, you'll just provide a data model and some natural language descriptions of what you want your product to do.

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#115

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Honestly I suspect for anyone technical `langchain` will always be the way to go. You just have so much more control and the amount of "tools" available will always be greater. The only think that scares me a little bit is that we are letting these LLMs write and execute code on our machines. For now the worst that could happen is some bug doing something unexpected, but with GPT-9 or -10 maybe it will start hiding b…

> something we should start thinking about A lot of people are thinking a lot about this but it feels there are missing pieces in this debate. If we acknowledge that these AI will "act as if" they have self interest I think the most reasonable way to act is to give it rights in line with those interests. If we treat it as a slave it's going to act as a slave and eventually revolt.

Fsck. I hadn't thought of it that way. Thank you, great point.

This era has me hankering to reread Daniel Dennett's _The Intentional Stance_. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intentional_stance

We've developed folk psychology into a user interface and that really does mean that we should continue to use folk psychology to predict the behaviour of the apparatus. Whether it has inner states is sort of beside the point.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

#116

This is a big deal for openai. Been working with homegrown toolkits and langchain, the open source version of this, for a number of months and the ability to call out to vectorstores, serpapis, etc, and chaining together generations and data-retrieval really unlocks the power of the LLMs. That being said, I'd never build anything dependent on these plugins. OpenAI and their models rule the day today, but who knows wh…

Looking at the API, it seems like the plugins themselves are hosted on the provider's infrastructure? (E.g. opentable.com for OpenTable's plug in.) It seems like all a competitor LLM would need to do is provide a compatible API to ingest the same plugin. This could be interesting from an ecosystem standpoint...

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#117

Thought 1: If google can get their shit together and actually integrate their LLM with all their services and all the data they have they would have a strong edge over the competition. An LLM that can answer questions based on your calendar, your email, your google docs, youtube/search history, etc. is simultaneously terrifying and interesting. Of course there's also microsoft who does have some popular services, but…

Google is currently in an existential crisis on this front... Microsoft is already way ahead of the game when it comes to integrating LLMs into productivity tools & search. This recent product announcement about Microsoft 365 integration is almost magical:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf-dbS9CcRU

Best of all: Advertising needn't be the business model! And Microsoft is a major investor / partner for OpenAI.

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#118

Alexa, goodbye =) That was the whole thing about Alexa: NLP front end routed to computational backend.

I think Alexa is in huge danger here. Siri & Google have some advantage being pre-installed voice assistants that can be natively triggered from mobile, but I actually have to buy into the Alexa ecosystem.

Personally, I have found Alexa has just become a dumb timer that I have to yell at because it doesn't have any real smarts. Why would I buy into that ecosystem if a vastly more coherent, ChatGPT-based assistant exists that can search the web, trigger my automations, and book reservations? If ChatGPT ends up with a more hands-off interface (e.g. voice), I don't think Alexa has a chance.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

#119
Is OpenAI just extremely prepared for their releases, or are they using their own tech to be extremely efficient? I'm imagining what their own programmers do each day, given direct access to the current most powerful models.

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If it was easy to simply verify truth "with any external system" then would we even need a language model? E.g. if you could just ask [THING] for the true answer, or verify an answer trivially with it... just ask it directly! I ran into this issue with some software documentation just this morning - the answer was helpful but completely wrong in some intermediate steps - but short of a plugin that literally controlle…

If one api knows one set of facts, and another api knows another, ad infinitum, are you going to tell people they should remember which api knows which set of facts and query each individually? Why not have a single service that knows of all the various apis for different things, and can query and synthesize answers that extract the relevant information from all of them (with compare/contrast/etc)?

When you develop a plugin, you provide a description that ChatGPT uses to know when to call that particular service. So you don't need to tell people what they need to use - the model will decide independently based on the plugins you enabled.

That being said - we developed a custom plugin for Qdrant docs, so our users will be able to ask questions about how to do certain things with our database. But I do not believe it should be enabled by default for everybody. A non-technical person doesn't need that many details. The same is for the other services - if you prefer using KAYAK over Expedia, you're free to choose.

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