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Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by OJFord »

marci wrote: post #70
frankjr wrote: post #33

> Coming later in 2023: Belgium, Taiwan, Italy, Spain Does anybody know why they do this country by country roll out? I'd be perfectly happy to order a US layout laptop but they don't allow me to place an order.

I would guess figuring out payment, shipping, returns, refunds, warranty...

..., taxes, consumer protection laws, ...

It's probably harder being a US company selling into each EU country than it is for an EU-based company to sell to the rest of the EU and also the US, too?

The alternative would be not selling directly to consumer, using some intermediary like Amazon or whatever.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by pr0zac »

brucethemoose2 wrote: post #47
mroche wrote: post #28

The blog pages are functional for me right now: New 16" Model: https://frame.work/blog/introducing-the-framework-laptop-16 New 13" Models with Intel 13th Gen and AMD 7000 series https://frame.work/blog/framework-laptop-13-with-13th-gen-in...

Works for me, thanks. But the linked Github repos for the (GPU) expansion bay and the input module are still private/dead. :/ https://github.com/FrameworkComputer/ExpansionBay https://github.com/FrameworkComputer/InputModules

I think the InputModules one is over at https://github.com/FrameworkComputer/inputmodule-rs

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by ChuckMcM »

seanp2k2 wrote: post #72
samtheDamned wrote: post #2

Every time Framework is brought up, there's a chorus of people saying they won't buy until they release an AMD edition, and as one of them this is great to see. Edit: Also the input deck and the ability to attach an egpu as well as upgrade to a newer egpu in the future are huge. This is a fantastic leap forward for Framework.

I’m one of the chorus. I actually preordered a TOTL Asus Zephyrus Duo about a month ago, and it came in last week. It’s been a dream so far — 16 real cores of AMD 7945HX, laptop 4090, hybrid graphics, two real screens! Main display is a quite color-accurate 16:10 miniled with 240hz freesync, lower display is a high-PPI IPS touch panel, dual raid-able M2 slots (I put in dual WD SN850Xs in raid0 and that’s showing ~14.…

That is a pretty niche laptop, I think the Framework folks are going more for the every day driver kind of experience. I've got a Framework 13 and really like it, it is, for me, a pretty solid Thinkpad replacement. But the real icing on the cake will be when I update the motherboard for an upgrade. (since it is relatively new I don't expect that to happen until maybe next year).

On the Asus, are both screens touch screens? Or is only the lower screen a touch screen? I had looked at 20:2 type touch screens to do a sort of "media bar" setup on my desktop but didn't find anything at the time I could use. I'm wondering how well such a setup might work.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by riedel »

vanilla_nut wrote: post #92
KeepingItToasty wrote: post #18

Quick summary for those couldn't watch the livestream/load the website. - New Framework laptops are available using Intel 13th Gen and AMD 7040 series. - New 61Wh battery, new matte display option & a Cooler Master mainboard case for $39. - New 16 inch Framework laptop. Allows you to have a number pad or not, up to you and customizable. If I understood the livestream correctly, there are upgradable dedicated GPUs tha…

The customization goes further than just yes/no to the number pad. Looks like a whole "Input Module system" that could open up opportunities for different keyboard designs (DVORAK, various locales, maybe different switches?). I love this idea, excited to see what folks do with it. Makes me think of Apple's Touchbar nonsense -- why force a number pad, or a second touchscreen on folks who don't want one? Such a good it…

Trackpoint with physical mouse buttons... Just let me keep dreaming.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by laweijfmvo »

Hamuko wrote: post #88
agloe_dreams wrote: post #84

And if you scroll down you can see the glowing review that they got from Linus Tech Tips.... Who owns a stake in their company...Yiiiikes.

I think that review might be from before Linus invested in Framework. Not that I can verify it because the Linus Tech Tips channel is still banned.

It might be before we knew about the investment...

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by yandrypozo »

samtheDamned wrote: post #2

Every time Framework is brought up, there's a chorus of people saying they won't buy until they release an AMD edition, and as one of them this is great to see. Edit: Also the input deck and the ability to attach an egpu as well as upgrade to a newer egpu in the future are huge. This is a fantastic leap forward for Framework.

I'm very curious why people prefer AMD chips (I've never used one), would you share why do you and/or people you know like AMD so much?

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by tzarc »

nrp wrote: post #50

I’m happy to answer questions that everyone has about what we announced! It may be a little while until I’m able to jump back on though.

As one of the QMK Firmware maintainers, it's great to see you're going ahead with the customisable side of things even on the input side.

Might I suggest engaging with QMK early so that we can avoid the usual manufacturer "hey can you merge this, we've shipped already and forgot to raise the PR until now"?

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by genocidicbunny »

whitehexagon wrote: post #58
KeepingItToasty wrote: post #18

Quick summary for those couldn't watch the livestream/load the website. - New Framework laptops are available using Intel 13th Gen and AMD 7040 series. - New 61Wh battery, new matte display option & a Cooler Master mainboard case for $39. - New 16 inch Framework laptop. Allows you to have a number pad or not, up to you and customizable. If I understood the livestream correctly, there are upgradable dedicated GPUs tha…

Matte display yay! I missed that a lot on the MBP. Seems like they still want to bundle a windows license, I never understand this, do MS pay OEMs to do this?

If you pick the DIY option, you can omit the Windows license. You'll have to install Linux yourself, but that doesn't seem like a terribly difficult task for someone already going with the DIY option.

I'm guessing they don't want to officially support any specific distro, and offering support for multiple distros is probably a bit outside their wheelhouse at the moment. [e: this is perhaps not the case]

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by ChuckMcM »

Brian_K_White wrote: post #103
seanp2k2 wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m one of the chorus. I actually preordered a TOTL Asus Zephyrus Duo about a month ago, and it came in last week. It’s been a dream so far — 16 real cores of AMD 7945HX, laptop 4090, hybrid graphics, two real screens! Main display is a quite color-accurate 16:10 miniled with 240hz freesync, lower display is a high-PPI IPS touch panel, dual raid-able M2 slots (I put in dual WD SN850Xs in raid0 and that’s showing ~14.…

Why even try to use the hardware raid? I can't imagine it actually performs any better than mdraid, and with mdraid the drives are as portable as plain drives. You could destroy the special laptop and stick the drives into usb enclosures and access the array again on any other machine.

Tell me you work in ops with out saying you work in ops. :-)

Btw, this is excellent advice. Funny story, I have a FreeNAS device and the motherboard died and I thought "Oh my, I need to bring my ZFS volumes up on another machine, but I didn't have another machine with 6 SATA bays! I ended up having the drives all sitting out on the workbench connected a mainboard with 8 SATA ports so that I could create an archive of the data, and then got the mainboard fixed so I could re-assemble and re-use the FreeNAS but still it alerted me to the fact that I really needed a 6-8 drive cabinet if I wanted to do this again.

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