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Yellen earned millions in speaking fees from Wall St, tech firms (2021)

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Re: Yellen earned millions in speaking fees from Wall St, tech firms (2021)

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Post by slaw »

syzarian wrote: post #100
starkd wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No way. Maybe at one time, but her comments in recent years put her way out of that category.

The U.S. has moved so far to the right the last 50 years that it has distorted the electorate's idea of what 'centrist' means. Regan believed the tax on capital ought to the higher than the tax on labor. Bush Sr. supported cap and trade when it came to acid rain. The EPA came about during Nixon's Presidency.

I don't know about the last 50 years, but in the last 15 years U.S. is moving rapidly to the left.

Re: Yellen earned millions in speaking fees from Wall St, tech firms (2021)

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Post by shagmin »

vuln wrote: post #89
vlovich123 wrote: post #79

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His money is tied up in his brand. Everyone constantly talking about him is his brand and he’s very much in the school of thought that “all publicity is good publicity”.

> he’s very much in the school of thought that “all publicity is good publicity”. Yeah he is, but I just can't see it being profitable at this point. His base isn't THAT big is it? His base is the poorest amongst current and previous Presidents.

Yet there are a lot of poor people willing to donate to mega church pastors that even have their own private planes, and his base probably overlaps with them quite a bit.

Re: Yellen earned millions in speaking fees from Wall St, tech firms (2021)

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Post by syzarian »

slaw wrote: post #111
syzarian wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The U.S. has moved so far to the right the last 50 years that it has distorted the electorate's idea of what 'centrist' means. Regan believed the tax on capital ought to the higher than the tax on labor. Bush Sr. supported cap and trade when it came to acid rain. The EPA came about during Nixon's Presidency.

I don't know about the last 50 years, but in the last 15 years U.S. is moving rapidly to the left.

The U.S. is not moving rapidly to the left. Your perception is being skewed by how far to the right the U.S. is in comparison to other OECD nations. The Republican party is far more right wing than any other major comparable party in the OECD.

Re: Yellen earned millions in speaking fees from Wall St, tech firms (2021)

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Post by shagmin »

throwme_123 wrote: post #30

The US is actually one the most corrupt countries on earth. What makes it worse: They always try to give lessons to the rest of the world, but meh. The result is here: Record homeless Americans, drug addicts in the streets, health crisis, education crisis, while the ruling elite (it's even more hypocritical when it's the left like Yellen) gets even richer. Time for a revolution maybe.

Those types of issues are mostly handled by local & state governments, which vary wildly in corruption from locality to locality. So many eyes are on the federal government while some city governments have much crazier things going on that have more of an immediate impact.

Re: Yellen earned millions in speaking fees from Wall St, tech firms (2021)

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Post by sbaiddn »

sbaiddn wrote: post #43
Eumenes wrote: post #25

These speaking fees HAVE to be kickbacks, right? I've attended a few of these things before and the talks have almost no substance, and the speakers just regurgitate things they've said before in the press or on official business. These don't equate to an industry leader or SME giving a talk on a technical or vocational subject.

Of course! But they're not technically illegal. So you can charge hundreds of thousands of dollars plus expenses for a one hour talk. They make more per performance than most of the biggest music stars. Consider that the "Friends" stars, at their height, only made $1 million/episode which took far more than ten hours to make and was broadcast and loved by hundreds of millions (if not billions?) around the world. Obvi…

"A cure must but be worse than the disease."

I meant:

"A cure CANNOT be worse than the disease." - autocorrect fail

Re: Yellen earned millions in speaking fees from Wall St, tech firms (2021)

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Post by slaw »

syzarian wrote: post #113
slaw wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know about the last 50 years, but in the last 15 years U.S. is moving rapidly to the left.

The U.S. is not moving rapidly to the left. Your perception is being skewed by how far to the right the U.S. is in comparison to other OECD nations. The Republican party is far more right wing than any other major comparable party in the OECD.

U.S. is rapidly moving to the left, that is a fact. It doesn't matter what other countries do.

Re: Yellen earned millions in speaking fees from Wall St, tech firms (2021)

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Post by syzarian »

slaw wrote: post #116
syzarian wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The U.S. is not moving rapidly to the left. Your perception is being skewed by how far to the right the U.S. is in comparison to other OECD nations. The Republican party is far more right wing than any other major comparable party in the OECD.

U.S. is rapidly moving to the left, that is a fact. It doesn't matter what other countries do.

It is not a fact. You are wrong on this. What meaningful left leaning policies have been implemented in the U.S. in the last 15 years?

Obamacare was a Republican idea designed by the Heritage Foundation in the 1990s. It was first implemented by Romney when he was governor of Massachusetts. There is no universal health care, there is no universal paid time off, there is no universal access to pre-school, there is no universal maternity leave, there is no universal sick leave, higher education is still extremely expensive at the point of usage, bankruptcy laws are still draconian, still no legal or law enforcement reform.

Re: Yellen earned millions in speaking fees from Wall St, tech firms (2021)

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Post by dragonwriter »

syzarian wrote: post #117
slaw wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

U.S. is rapidly moving to the left, that is a fact. It doesn't matter what other countries do.

It is not a fact. You are wrong on this. What meaningful left leaning policies have been implemented in the U.S. in the last 15 years? Obamacare was a Republican idea designed by the Heritage Foundation in the 1990s. It was first implemented by Romney when he was governor of Massachusetts. There is no universal health care, there is no universal paid time off, there is no universal access to pre-school, there is no u…

> Obamacare was a Republican idea designed by the Heritage Foundation in the 1990s.

I may be misremembering, but I think the basic outline was first proposed by an health insurance industry trade group during the debates over President Clinton’s proposed healthcare reform, and was popular with Republicans as an alternative, and the Heritage Foundation version was a further elaboration.

But, yeah, very far from Left.

Re: Yellen earned millions in speaking fees from Wall St, tech firms (2021)

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Post by vuln »

syzarian wrote: post #99
vuln wrote: post #92

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> Trump has been grifting his fans before, during, and after his Presidency. We've seen politicians grift their supporters before. Looks at AOC and her 95$ _tax the rich hoodie_. I just find it hard to believe he has that many supporters with that deep of pockets to keep him flush. As far as statistics are concerned Trump's base is the poorest amongst current and previous Presidents. > Trump forced the government to…

If you think AOC and Trump's level of corruption are even within one order of magnitude of each other then you need to seriously question how you evaluate the information you are receiving. Trump is orders of magnitude more self-serving, greedy, full of avarice, corrupt, and debased than any other politician in the U.S. right now. Trump's son-in-law made billions during Trump's Presidency. Trump forced the Secret Ser…

> If you think AOC and Trump's level of corruption are even within one order of magnitude of each other then you need to seriously question how you evaluate the information you are receiving. Trump is orders of magnitude more self-serving, greedy, full of avarice, corrupt, and debased than any other politician in the U.S. right now. Trump's son-in-law made billions during Trump's Presidency. Trump forced the Secret Service to stay at his hotels while he traveled and charged exorbitant prices. The list of examples goes on. There is nothing remotely comparable about AOC and Trump when it comes to corruption.

Corruption != Grifting

Nice try though.

Re: Yellen earned millions in speaking fees from Wall St, tech firms (2021)

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Post by beeboop »

knodi123 wrote: post #101
throwme_123 wrote: post #30

The US is actually one the most corrupt countries on earth. What makes it worse: They always try to give lessons to the rest of the world, but meh. The result is here: Record homeless Americans, drug addicts in the streets, health crisis, education crisis, while the ruling elite (it's even more hypocritical when it's the left like Yellen) gets even richer. Time for a revolution maybe.

> The US is actually one the most corrupt countries on earth. That's an enormous allegation. But I don't think it holds up. The US has corruption, but actual bribery is rare, and the reason we're so outraged is because we have the attitude and expectation that no one should be corrupt. This is like saying "I wouldn't want to live in a bright room - I'd see a roach or two! I'd rather keep the lights down low."

There are hundreds of millions of dollars of bribes exchanging hands every year: https://www.opensecrets.org/political-action-committees-pacs...

PACs are the method of bribery in American politics. Anyone can contribute in unlimited amounts. The other is donations to foundations owned by the politician, and of course speaking fees.

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