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Re: Triplebyte acquired by Karat

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Post by rachofsunshine »

nullfield wrote: post #99
rachofsunshine wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're essentially correct that that effort didn't work. That pivot was motivated, more or less, by the fact that we'd never found a good way to attract candidates that wasn't "dump tons of money into ads". (Even in the early days, when our branding was good, most of our candidate acquisition was from ads; only maybe 25% was word-of-mouth.) It just didn't work: senior engineers simply didn't find the things we could…

If I want to burn all my data there before Karat “anonymizes it for analytics purposes” on 2023-03-31, so they don’t get it, is there a method for doing so?

At this point you'd need to talk to Karat about that, as they now own all of that data. I would imagine that they have (but don't have any special knowledge of) some sort of compliance around that, given various privacy laws, but you'd need to speak to Karat's support at this point (TB's support does not really exist at this stage).

Re: Triplebyte acquired by Karat

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Post by [deleted] »

xapata wrote: post #107
hayst4ck wrote: post #68

I had a friend get a job through triplebyte and generally had a positive opinion of them. I also had a generally positive opinion since I had wasted time phone screening candidates. Every phone screen a company does is at least $100 of wasted time. The value proposition of outsourcing phone screening for fizzbuzz is clear. The value proposition of doing one phone screen for N companies is also clear. Then they starte…

There's a difference between a mistake and no ethics.

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Re: Triplebyte acquired by Karat

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Post by maxk42 »

burkaman wrote: post #31
maxk42 wrote: post #27

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Curious... I've been using LinkedIn for a job search and am unfamiliar with the questions to which you refer. How can I find and pass this test?

https://www.linkedin.com/skill-assessments/hub/quizzes/

Thank you. Just passed 7 of them. Will see if it helps.

Re: Triplebyte acquired by Karat

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Post by throwaway81523 »

rachofsunshine wrote: post #110
hitekker wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TripleByte once told me it was aiming to becoming “the hiring division for Google, Apple and all of big tech” As a mere jobseeker in the pipeline, I wasn’t sure if the representative understood the reality of recruiting. To me, the ambition sounded ignorant; companies do not want to outsource and centralize their hiring in a third-party that is also hiring for their competitors.

This wasn't as much of a barrier as you'd expect. Yes, recruiters mostly didn't like the idea of framing a recruiting process as "you're getting people X other company didn't hire" (even though, frankly, that's most candidates you get anyway and hiring processes are not that strongly correlated), but that interpretation usually didn't come up in the first place. The biggest single barrier we faced for early TB was pr…

I was in early TB and had a good experience at first that later went sour. You may have explained a little of what happened. Oh well.

Re: Triplebyte acquired by Karat

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Post by bigbillheck »

acheron wrote: post #90
bigbillheck wrote: post #79

I went thru Triplebyte in 2019, did well enough on the initial quiz to skip the technical screen, but then they matched me with a bunch of little tiny startups -- including one on in a different hemisphere! -- doing uninspiring work. I talked with two, one of which ended up ghosting, and ended up declining a flyout to the other. Three weeks later I got an email from Triplebyte saying they were "pausing your process".

Huh, really? I thought it sounded interesting years ago and checked them out. I then read that it was for jobs/people in San Francisco only, and my reaction was, as the kids say, "lmao". Never thought about them again. Had no idea they moved on to allowing places that were potentially elsewhere and even in different hemispheres.

In fairness I could be mis-remembering the details, but it was something about making apps for Africa; I thought they were based somewhere there but it's been a couple years.

Re: Triplebyte acquired by Karat

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Post by IshKebab »

benatkin wrote: post #57
IshKebab wrote: post #52

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Yeah I agree. It's just a shame LinkedIn's tests aren't as good as Triplebyte's. I just retook the Linux LinkedIn test and what a bunch of garbage it was. Lots of memorising commands (e.g. nm-connection-edit) and obscure Bash nonsense. And it only says whether you're in the top 30% or not, which apparently I am despite the fact that I guessed half of the answers. I just guessed the least intuitive option every time h…

> obscure Bash nonsense Tell me more. Having trouble thinking of something that wouldn't change how I'd percieve a senior dev's skillset.

* What is the difference between `=` and `==` in `if [ $FOO == ...`?

* What is evaluated first, file globs or variable expansion?

Both are things that you might need to look up once in a lifetime. If you're getting to the point that are memorising rules like these, then you're writing too much Bash and should switch to a more robust language.

Re: Triplebyte acquired by Karat

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Post by bmcahren »

Years ago, I took a Triplebyte test and at the end of it learned critical (and accurate) insights on my strengths and weaknesses. I realized if I can screen my candidates in this same way, they will be incredibly valuable employees.

After confirming the skill-ranking capabilities with our first hires, we integrated Triplebyte into our hiring process to save developers hours of wasted time on pointless coding exercises that are thrown away after each interview only to start over again with the next company. This was an advantage for us, we had a better signal to noise ratio on candidates and we found more talent willing to take a triplebyte test than our own in-house tests. Further, the triplebyte tests were maintained and refined over the years to an accuracy I believe is going to be very difficult to replace.

Yesterday, Karat announced a shutdown of Triplebyte with less than 2 weeks notice. They don't care to offer a solution to any of Triplebyte's customers. In their words they "only purchased a technology that Triplebyte made available to other companies" i.e. "we don't want anyone else using this".

The Karat website uses floaty words like "interview cloud" and emphasizes live-coding interviews as part of some legacy product that would put us back into the stone ages when it comes to our current hiring process. Karat expressed no intention on offering solutions to replace what Triplebyte did best. Karat do not care about the inconvenience of their customers. Karat provides less than two weeks notice to paying customers that they are cancelling service.

Re: Triplebyte acquired by Karat

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Post by rachofsunshine »

bmcahren wrote: post #119

Years ago, I took a Triplebyte test and at the end of it learned critical (and accurate) insights on my strengths and weaknesses. I realized if I can screen my candidates in this same way, they will be incredibly valuable employees. After confirming the skill-ranking capabilities with our first hires, we integrated Triplebyte into our hiring process to save developers hours of wasted time on pointless coding exercise…

(I'm in email contact with this person, but the public TLDR here is that Karat isn't just buying this to shut it down and hasn't, at least as far as I can tell, done anything wrong in this process. The shortness of notice isn't their doing, at least.)
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