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Re: Fireball Spotted over Northeastern USA

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In case the link won't load for anyone else, there's a YouTube video on the page: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfNdaYqVxR0

I wish I had the resources to have a HD camera pointed at the sky 24/7 and recording capacity for moments like these.

I mean an HD webcam is not that expensive, and you don't need to record everything, just the interesting actions, any video surveillance software would do....

Re: Fireball Spotted over Northeastern USA

#112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you remember the day, and location? There may be corroborating reports.

It was 40 years ago in Newcastle, Australia at Merewether beach. I can’t even remember what I did last week.

Good chance it would’ve been seen by a bunch of people and mentioned in the local newspapers of the time too.

I often look for things at trove — but I think that might be too recent for trove to have the relevant newspaper articles available.

Here’s an example of an advanced search there:

https://trove.nla.gov.au/search/advanced/category/newspapers...

(For meteor and newcastle between 1975 and 1987)

[edit - fixed hyperlink]

Re: Fireball Spotted over Northeastern USA

#113

I saw a meteor once when I was a kid. I was on the beach and it streaked across the sky and exploded into a bunch of other things that streaked a little further and faded out. I never really told anyone because it seem so preposterous that I wasn't really sure I had seen it at all. It was well out over the over the ocean a number of kilometeres and up very high - zero chance it was fireworks and there weren't ny on t…

I saw a big one in the evening during army bootcamp. For a second or two it was as bright as day.

One of the guys says "wtf was that?" and another replied "it's a falling star" (literal term we use for shooting stars in our language).

A third guy asks, "so why do stars fall?". Silence.

I ventured, "uh, guys... stars don't fall. Stars are like the Sun, just really far away. What we saw was a meteor, a rock that flew through space and burned up when it hit the atmosphere."

Half the squad looked at me like I just said that babies are delivered by storks. I could tell they thought that was total bullshit but couldn't offer an alternative explanation and call me on it.

It was then that I realized how smart and educated the average person is. Army service was mandatory back then so everyone had to go.

Re: Fireball Spotted over Northeastern USA

#114
post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was 40 years ago in Newcastle, Australia at Merewether beach. I can’t even remember what I did last week.

Good chance it would’ve been seen by a bunch of people and mentioned in the local newspapers of the time too. I often look for things at trove — but I think that might be too recent for trove to have the relevant newspaper articles available. Here’s an example of an advanced search there: https://trove.nla.gov.au/search/advanced/category/newspapers... (For meteor and newcastle between 1975 and 1987) [edit - fixed hyp…

For older time periods such as the 1950s - where trove does index the newspapers — it’s very easy to find reports of meteors and bright lights —

https://trove.nla.gov.au/search/advanced/category/newspapers...

Re: Fireball Spotted over Northeastern USA

#115
post #63
post #60

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You haven't accounted for the massive gravity well that is the sun. The difference in potential energy from infinity to the radius of Earths orbit is GMm/r. Set that equal to momentum (.5mv^2) and you get sqrt(2GM/r). Plug in the numbers and you'll see you can't really have a meteor that stumbled in from outside the solar system with a similar velocity to Earths orbit by the time it came down to Earths orbit. Put ano…

Orbital mechanics is considerably more complex than this because there are several over massive planets orbiting the Sun. Granted, the odds are very low of getting kicked into a trajectory that will just barely kiss Earth's orbit (at the right time), but it can happen. Not everything orbits in a conic. Also, extrasolar meteors are probably a lot more rare than the above comment would suggest.

That is so unlikely if it happened I would seriously consider the possibility of an intentional gravity maneuver by an alien race.

Re: Fireball Spotted over Northeastern USA

#116
post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was 40 years ago in Newcastle, Australia at Merewether beach. I can’t even remember what I did last week.

“The 1978 New South Wales fireball“ 4:44am I think - would’ve been visible from Merewether > Abstract A very large meteor fireball passed through the atmosphere above the east coast of New South Wales early in the morning of 7 April 1978. It was seen at 04.44 AEST (18.44 UT, 6 April) by hundreds of people from the cities of Sydney and Newcastle who deluged the news media with telephoned sightings. The resulting publi…

Nice research!

However 40 years ago was 1983 so unlikely to be same event.

Re: Fireball Spotted over Northeastern USA

#117
I was actually in that general area about a year ago in the late fall and saw something very similar, except at the end it kind of "popped", like it disintegrated or exploded.

Is there a meteor shower or something visible there that these might be correlated with?

Re: Fireball Spotted over Northeastern USA

#118
post #3

In case the link won't load for anyone else, there's a YouTube video on the page: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfNdaYqVxR0

Damn YouTube is pushing the ads these days. I don't remember last time I opened YouTube and didn't see an ad on open. I'm logged into Chrome, no VPN or funny business. What a racket.

One of many possible solutions. This one no Javascript, no browser extensions, no Python, no libcurl, no "subscriptions", no BS.

      #!/bin/sh
      x(){ bssl client -connect www.youtube.com:443;};
      x(){ openssl s_client -connect www.youtube.com:443 -ign_eof;}; 
      read x;
      printf "%s\r\n%s\r\n%s\r\n%s\r\n%s\r\n%s\r\n%s\n" \
      "POST /youtubei/v1/player?key=AIzaSyA8eiZmM1FaDVjRy-df2KTyQ_vz_yYM39w HTTP/1.1" \
      "Host: www.youtube.com" \
      "Content-Type: x-www-form-urlencoded" \
      "Content-Length: 121" \
      "Connection: close" \
      "" \
      '{"videoId":"'$x'","context":{"client":{"clientName":"ANDROID","clientVersion":"17.10.35","androidSdkVersion":30}}}' \
      |x|sed -n "/itag=22&/{s/.*: ./$x/p;}" 
Usage:

      echo RfNdaYqVxR0|1.sh > 1.htm
      chrome ./1.htm

Re: Fireball Spotted over Northeastern USA

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A fizzing crackling sound?

Crossed with a low frequency white noise like howl. I see "with sound" on the meteorite spotter page, but it still seems like it was made up. Interesting, https://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1932PA.....40..289W#:~:text=... . https://www.science.org/content/article/new-theory-may-expla... . So maybe not.

I was on a sailing ship in the Atlantic, on the middle of the night watch, when a large meteor streaked across the sky. It burned with several colours (white, green, red, maybe, can’t remember exactly) and made a strong fizzling sound, like something in a hot frying pan with too much oil. I know that couldn’t be from the meteor’s sound waves, so this is the first sensible explanation.

Re: Fireball Spotted over Northeastern USA

#120

I saw a meteor once when I was a kid. I was on the beach and it streaked across the sky and exploded into a bunch of other things that streaked a little further and faded out. I never really told anyone because it seem so preposterous that I wasn't really sure I had seen it at all. It was well out over the over the ocean a number of kilometeres and up very high - zero chance it was fireworks and there weren't ny on t…

I saw a big one in the evening during army bootcamp. For a second or two it was as bright as day. One of the guys says "wtf was that?" and another replied "it's a falling star" (literal term we use for shooting stars in our language). A third guy asks, "so why do stars fall?". Silence. I ventured, "uh, guys... stars don't fall. Stars are like the Sun, just really far away. What we saw was a meteor, a rock that flew t…

For a moment I thought you are an Estonian, because we, too, call it a falling star. But our military service is still mandatory :(
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