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Coinbase suspending USDC:USD conversions over the weekend

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Re: Coinbase suspending USDC:USD conversions over the weekend

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There's something to be said for everyone knowing the risks of doing business with you, and behaving consistently (consistently badly) so that those risks don't change. That's the regime of Tether. Nobody will even be mad when the rug gets pulled. The federal reserve could stand to learn a thing or two, honestly.

USD is backed up by USA army. If a country refuses to accept USD they will have a democracy problem and get attacked.

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Re: Coinbase suspending USDC:USD conversions over the weekend

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TIL there's a food market on the dark web.

Plenty of clearnet businesses accept crypto.

Sure, and paying with crypto is always going to be more painful unless you use an exchange, which is just a bank with less regulation(ok maybe not in the US, since banks are barely regulated there anyway). Which again means it will never catch on unless it just becomes a conventional currency. Which, btw is a sociological inevitability anyway(I will die on this hill, try me). Decentralisation never lasts, see countless examples of that with decentralised protocols(including crypto! Which is literally why this thread is here).

Is it useful for people in countries with shitty governments? Very much so, it seems to me. Which is great. But that is not an argument for its intrinsic value as opposed to normal currency in a country with a functioning economy and government.

Re: Coinbase suspending USDC:USD conversions over the weekend

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Except a $100 bill is likely accepted. I’ve been to developing countries that will accept local currency, dollars, and euros. I doubt they would accept any pounds, tethers, or other fake electronic currency.

This is hilarious. Do you really think you can pay with USD in any random country?

At least in Australia and the UK, if someone seriously tries paying with US currency they'll be laughed at right out of the shop.

Or at least nicely told to go and exchange it for real money (local currency) somewhere, then come back and try again. :)

Re: Coinbase suspending USDC:USD conversions over the weekend

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post #102

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Except a $100 bill is likely accepted. I’ve been to developing countries that will accept local currency, dollars, and euros. I doubt they would accept any pounds, tethers, or other fake electronic currency.

This is hilarious. Do you really think you can pay with USD in any random country?

As a tourist maybe. But try to do it at any place mostly frequented locals in Europe and you will get nowhere. But funny thing. Same does not only apply to USD, but Euros as well. And EU doesn't even have army. And still on my last trip the taxis took the money.

Re: Coinbase suspending USDC:USD conversions over the weekend

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No, in many countries you cannot buy USD directly. You also cannot store USD in a local bank account. And in various places it's explicitly forbidden to hold USD as savings because it would devalue local currency if everyone started transacting in USD instead. So, the "C" makes USD exposure available to anyone worldwide, assuming you have e.g. an Ethereum wallet.

So you are saying that there are countries where USDC is legal while opening a foreign brokerage account like IBKR and converting your currency to USD is illegal? And this is not just a perceived loophole? Could you give an example of a country like this so I could google?

Important question is that what would happen if someone started asking pointed questions? About why do you transact in this and doesn't it go against laws. Would the stance actually hold...

Re: Coinbase suspending USDC:USD conversions over the weekend

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Crypto was supposed to liberate you from the traditional banksters. Instead it’s an impenetrable smokescreen where you’ve got uninsured credit risk with institutions in Silicon Valley and the Bahamas and who knows where, and you won’t know until the edifice cracks and your money is stuck. Not a terrific improvement.

Of course the Bitcoin maximalists will shake their heads, mutter about self-custody, and then go on conducting their actual finances in dirty fiat because Bitcoin is nearly impossible to use for anything that people actually want to do.

Re: Coinbase suspending USDC:USD conversions over the weekend

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post #102

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Except a $100 bill is likely accepted. I’ve been to developing countries that will accept local currency, dollars, and euros. I doubt they would accept any pounds, tethers, or other fake electronic currency.

You won't get anywhere with a $100 bill in many developed countries, outside of some very tourist-y areas maybe. At least not in regular shops, of course you can exchange it at a bank. But if you try to order a coffee with US dollars, you won't get one.

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Re: Coinbase suspending USDC:USD conversions over the weekend

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post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except a $100 bill is likely accepted. I’ve been to developing countries that will accept local currency, dollars, and euros. I doubt they would accept any pounds, tethers, or other fake electronic currency.

This is hilarious. Do you really think you can pay with USD in any random country?

Talking pragmatics, what are the chances any random coffee shop in the USA would take your money if all you got were $100 bills?

Re: Coinbase suspending USDC:USD conversions over the weekend

#120

Haha, after a decade of FUD, turns out USDT were more cautious and diligent with their funds, than the "regulated and transparent" USDC. Still risky, of course. No substitute to holding proper BTC.

> turns out USDT were more cautious and diligent with their funds

This refers to facts not in evidence.

The potential collapse of USDC is not a reflection on the Tether fraud in any way. Outcomes in one are not evidence for or against anything in the other and it is a mistake to conflate them.

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