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Re: Linode increases price of compute plans and more

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The message being sent to customers claims that they “remain more aggressively priced than our peer providers”, which is nonsense as far as I can tell—unless they now consider their “peer providers” to be the likes of AWS, Azure, and GCP? Hetzner Cloud’s price is ~40% of Linode’s new price[0], OVHcloud ~50–60%[1], and Vultr ~80%[2]. Of the big-name VPS providers, I think only DigitalOcean is more expensive now[3], an…

What is really weird about this, they are now more expensive than comparable systems on AWS Lightsail. (Assuming they have not already updated the pricing page on linode.com) https://aws.amazon.com/lightsail/pricing So I am really not sure how they are looking at their "peers"

I wasn't aware Lightsail was this reasonable, thanks. Can you share if you found the speed comparable to other VPS?

Re: Linode increases price of compute plans and more

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That's a really anti-hobbyist move. With CAD losing value compared to USD, it means I have been paying more in the last year already. As a tiny hobby developper who has almost no traffic, lower egress fees mean nothing to me and the higher pricing means I'll just kill my projects. I guess they don't care about losing loyal customers and are shifting towards entreprise. It's a bit sad to sell your business to people w…

> I guess they don't care about losing loyal customers and are shifting towards entreprise.

I called it in the name-rebranding thread here.

I've been noodling around on how I'm going to move, but it looks like I should really work harder on getting that done.

Re: Linode increases price of compute plans and more

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Well, We switched from linode to Vultr because we needed all VPS to talk to each other. Vultr pricing is also a plus since they have the most affordable vps offer amongst linode and DO.

How has their stability been? Last time I tried a vultr $5 node they had periodic network problems and it would see really high packet loss for 10-20 seconds every couple hours, as well as some unexpected outages.

We're using it to test some solutions before going live and everything is ok atm.

Re: Linode increases price of compute plans and more

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Most hobbyists will use the $5 machines which are not changing, though.

$5? That's tad expensive in most of world. It's often better to use free tiers ( https://github.com/ripienaar/free-for-dev ) or $1 / $2 VPS ( https://lowendbox.com/ )

What I HATE about these VPS deals from lowendbox is my past experience of getting burned multiple times on VPS systems that have terrible uptime, become randomly unresponsive and the the provider being unresponsive, shutting down, or disappearing one day. I don't know if things have improved but I tread carefully because at some point my time and sanity become more valuable. Id love a microinstance for the cheapest possible price but I dont have a way to measure average uptime reliability.

Re: Linode increases price of compute plans and more

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That's a really anti-hobbyist move. With CAD losing value compared to USD, it means I have been paying more in the last year already. As a tiny hobby developper who has almost no traffic, lower egress fees mean nothing to me and the higher pricing means I'll just kill my projects. I guess they don't care about losing loyal customers and are shifting towards entreprise. It's a bit sad to sell your business to people w…

Yeah, it's really sad. I am going to be switching off of Linode after using it for many years happily.

I am considering trying to exclusively use Oracle Cloud's "always free" tier. They literally give away small VMs for hobbyists and I've had one around for a few years now. Reliability isn't as good as Linode (what do you expect for free?) but as a small timer/hobbyist I don't really care.

(as an aside, driving hobbyists away from your product to Oracle of all things is quite funny to me)

Re: Linode increases price of compute plans and more

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The message being sent to customers claims that they “remain more aggressively priced than our peer providers”, which is nonsense as far as I can tell—unless they now consider their “peer providers” to be the likes of AWS, Azure, and GCP? Hetzner Cloud’s price is ~40% of Linode’s new price[0], OVHcloud ~50–60%[1], and Vultr ~80%[2]. Of the big-name VPS providers, I think only DigitalOcean is more expensive now[3], an…

Yep - I just migrated my gaming server to Hetzner a few weeks back. With this increase in price I'll be pushed to migrate my other self-hosted services there as well. End of an era for me - I've been with Linode for over a decade due to their pricing and positive customer support experiences. And, truth is I haven't used their support for 4-5+ years so... easy decision. Silver lining here - Hetzner's US datacenters c…

Same, I have been using Linode for a little over 10 years. The main barrier to migrating off is that I will lose the IP I have been using to send mail for the last 10 years. I guess big email is going to win and I'll have to use fastmail or Google in some way now.

Re: Linode increases price of compute plans and more

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I mainly keep a cheap vps at linode (now Akamai) because I am addicted to using their DNS as a hidden primary. It is dual stack and has really good geographical coverage and performance. I have been looking for months, perhaps years for an alternative that ticks the boxes for me. Their VPS offerings were broadly competitive and the DNS is a nice bonus for someone with little money to spare and particular requirements. I don't really want to use cloudflare and well known hobbyist friendly free services can be >100ms (eg he.net) or even > 200ms (anything euro like 1984) latency from my part of the world. Then cheaper paid services tend to have deficiencies like bunny don't seem to offer dual stack.

Linode was awesome and different when you could chat with them on IRC to resolve problems and they sponsored a lot of FOSS stuff over the years. It is sad to see them go but the reality is Akamai are a very different company with very different aims who server a different type of customer.

Re: Linode increases price of compute plans and more

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That's a really anti-hobbyist move. With CAD losing value compared to USD, it means I have been paying more in the last year already. As a tiny hobby developper who has almost no traffic, lower egress fees mean nothing to me and the higher pricing means I'll just kill my projects. I guess they don't care about losing loyal customers and are shifting towards entreprise. It's a bit sad to sell your business to people w…

Most hobbyists will use the $5 machines which are not changing, though.

Not necessarily. There tends to be a sweet spot for performance and I expect the lowest hosting plans mostly serve to acquire customers in the expectation many will upgrade to more expensive plans

Re: Linode increases price of compute plans and more

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Think of it more like a "lease" — you don't own the IP, just the right to apply it to one of your instances for a time.

Exactly. And to linode’s credit they default give you free IPv6 so it’s an option. I had a database server on IPv6 only for awhile (though you can do the same with private IPs if you need, it’s easier to SSH directly). AWS would charge for static IPs and absolutely no way to get IPv6 pretty recently, I think they might finally be changing.

I'm surprised more services don't do IPv6 only. Vultr has it, but only for a lowest end plan. My stack on Linode uses private IPs and do not need a public IPv4 address at all.
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