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Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

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Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

#113
Oh come on...

Quality > quantity is probably the most common trope in upper middle class westerner culture.

A niche product manufacturer going all in on low volume high quality isn't "refreshing". It's just good business and knowing your customer.

Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

#115
post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

270mg of caffeine and 112ml of alcohol per 750ml bottle. Like three strong coffees and seven shots of vodka in a single serving. I truly think it ought to be taxed heavily to repay the costs that society bares for it's existence.

It's the British equivalent of Four Loko.

In college we used to mix Sparks or Four Loco with Vodka -- "maniac juice".

Nothing good ever came of it. Redbull mixed with anything e.g. Jager, was also known to lead to terrible things. Sort of an entry level cocaine and scotch.

Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

#116

Chartreuse is a bit weird in that it's a kind of joint partnership between an isolationist monastery [1] and a liquor producer/distributor. I lived near Voiron and did the obligatory tour of the production facility (I already liked the liquor thanks to a friend (hey Iv!), and the place smelled delicious!) They do a good job maintaining the mystique of the Secret Recipe Known Only By A Handful™, which I suppose the mo…

Haus Alpenz carries a genepy made by Dolin that is fairly easy to find at large/specialty stores.

https://alpenz.com/product-genepy.html

Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

#117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is a bit funny that Four Loko got this reputation, when alcohol+caffeine have been helping people make bad decisions faster for ages (it isn’t like the FDA is gonna somehow ban rum and coke).

I don’t know that I’ve ever seen or heard about rum and coke resulting in the same effects as four loko or vodka Red Bull. Could be the formula, could be the intent of the drinkers. I don’t think it’s a cognitive bias, but there is a rowdiness at a party with a keg and then there is a different level at a party with 40s.

The median rum and coke drinker is very different from the median Four Loko drinker for any metric except maybe height and weight.

Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

#118
Fascinating fact: one of the 5 people who know the secret Chartreuse formula is a parish priest at the Church of Notre Dame in upper Manhattan, Fr. Michael K. Holleran.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/17/business/chartreuse-monks...

'When he departed the site in 1990, he became the only living outsider to know the liqueur’s ancient formula. “It’s safe with me,” he said. “Oddly enough, they didn’t make me sign anything when I left.”'

Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

#119
post #76

Unlike the author, I do not applaud the artificial limiting if supply. I find it incredibly annoying that it's become impossible to find Chartreuse and that the prices are skyrocketing. It's such a key and irreplaceable ingredient in many cocktails. Unlike a fancy whiskey or whatever, there is little you can substitute for it, so I'm not unable to get my orders at many of my favorite cocktail bars.

> artificial limiting of supply

It’s a drink produced by one monastic order from (presumably) locally harvested herbs. There most certainly is a natural limit on how much can be sustainably produced before it no longer is the same drink.[1]

They chose to maximise availability over time (and work/pray balance) rather than maximise short term availability.

[1] Where that limit is is of course up for debate, though.

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