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Re: Developer with ADHD? You’re not alone

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>A perfect fit?

>Many developers with ADHD feel their job is a perfect fit for how they think and approach problems. “Coding can give ADHD brains exactly the kind of stimulation they crave,” explains full-stack developer Abbey Perini. “Not only is coding a creative endeavor that involves constantly learning new things, but also once one problem is solved, there’s always a brand new one to try.”

>In addition to a revolving door of fresh challenges that can keep people with ADHD engaged, coding can reward and encourage a state of hyperfocus: a frequently cited symptom of ADHD that developer Neil Peterson calls “a state of laser-like concentration in which distractions and even a sense of passing time seem to fade away.” It’s easy to draw parallels between hyperfocus and the flow state, a distraction-free groove in which programmers, writers, musicians, artists, and other creators produce their best work (occasionally while forgetting to eat). Our paid platform, Stack Overflow for Teams, is popular with developers in large part because it helps them avoid distraction and protect the productive sanctity of their flow state.

How much of the "hyperfocus" is just from all of the Adderall these people are popping--both those with actual ADHD, and those just feigning it to get pills from their Dr to boost their productivity?

If anything, it would seem like people with autism spectrum disorder, who can hyperfocus without popping pills, would be the perfect fit (and were seen as such 10-20 years ago). I actually wonder what % of SV SWEs (especially at FAANG) would lose their jobs, or wouldn't have gotten them to begin with, if Adderall didn't exist.

Re: Developer with ADHD? You’re not alone

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>A perfect fit? >Many developers with ADHD feel their job is a perfect fit for how they think and approach problems. “Coding can give ADHD brains exactly the kind of stimulation they crave,” explains full-stack developer Abbey Perini. “Not only is coding a creative endeavor that involves constantly learning new things, but also once one problem is solved, there’s always a brand new one to try.” >In addition to a revo…

As someone who was only diagnosed with ADHD in the past year or so, I can verify that hyperfocus absolutely existed pre-medication. If I was interested in something, I could work on it for whole weekends without any sense of time passing. I did get diagnosed in a bit of a panic after I lost my previous role due to ADHD symptoms.

Re: Developer with ADHD? You’re not alone

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That's been disproven.

Not really. Though, of course, anything has been proven or disproven in one paper or another, like "everything causes cancer" since it's easy to find the appropriate research papers...

You won't find many papers with any association between food allergies and -diagnosed- ADHS. Plenty of papers where that has been ruled out. Also sugar has been ruled out plenty of times.

The psychopathology just doesn't lend itself to food allergies as a cause. The symptoms would just vanish with sporadical diet changes all the time during childhood and that's just not what happens. You wouldn't see neurological changes, you wouldn't expect stimulants to work as a treatment, but you would expect anti-allergy or immunosuppressant medication to work.

The evidence on this is too strong to claim food allergy is a major cause of anything like ADHD. Intermittent concentration problems in some people? Maybe. But that's nothing compared to actual ADHD.

Re: Developer with ADHD? You’re not alone

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Yea but how useful is that if I can't control USING that information. The only way to control what I can focus on unless I loop in some way to get ALOT of dopamine out of it. It's an executive function DISABILITY, it takes so much work to get it close to useful where it just makes it so your basically on par with everyone after it.

> Yea but how useful is that if I can't control USING that information. I have ADHD. I write down a ton of notes. I have a large, and growing, note-taking environment (Obsidian). After a while using features such as backlinks, etc, you begin to see just _how connected_ everything you know is. Interdisciplinary _is the way to work_, not in some narrow silo. I do not have a job I care about too much right now, so I am…

yea all this is romanized as if the curse isn't a huge part of my life aswell. Like neet I know how to do all this stuff now time to watch everyone be able to complete and do it all as I just collect information and half finished projects

Re: Developer with ADHD? You’re not alone

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Everyone on here says they have ADHD so they can get access to Adderall which is sort of a cheat code for programming. Some people do this genuinely believing they’re suffering from some disorder, others do it knowing they would be fine without it but better with it.

I think many people do genuinely have ADHD and benefit from medication, but denying that Adderall abuse is rampant in Silicon Valley (which IMO is what whoever downvoted you is implicitly doing) is silly. This was even portrayed on the show Silicon Valley, and Scott Alexander (the slatestarcodex guy), who has written about Adderall at length, and confirmed its widespread use as a performance enhancer by those who don't have any legitimate medical need for it.

Re: Developer with ADHD? You’re not alone

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Everyone on here says they have ADHD so they can get access to Adderall which is sort of a cheat code for programming. Some people do this genuinely believing they’re suffering from some disorder, others do it knowing they would be fine without it but better with it.

I think many people do genuinely have ADHD and benefit from medication, but denying that Adderall abuse is rampant in Silicon Valley (which IMO is what whoever downvoted you is implicitly doing) is silly. This was even portrayed on the show Silicon Valley, and Scott Alexander (the slatestarcodex guy), who has written about Adderall at length, and confirmed its widespread use as a performance enhancer by those who don…

I don't see why this was downvoted as well; is it seriously controversial to suggest that a substantial number of people without ADHD are taking Adderall as a cognitive performance enhancer?

https://slatestarcodex.com/2017/12/28/adderall-risks-much-mo...

>I didn’t realize how much of a psychiatrist’s time was spent gatekeeping Adderall.

>The human brain wasn’t built for accounting or software engineering. A few lucky people can do these things ten hours a day, every day, with a smile. The rest of us start fidgeting and checking our cell phone somewhere around the thirty minute mark. I work near the financial district of a big city, so every day a new Senior Regional Manipulator Of Tiny Numbers comes in and tells me that his brain must be broken because he can’t sit still and manipulate tiny numbers as much as he wants. How come this is so hard for him, when all of his colleagues can work so diligently?

The entire piece is worth reading.

Re: Developer with ADHD? You’re not alone

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It affects your insurance? MORTGAGES? What the hell? In the US, the only external downside of ADHD is when you change doctors and the new one automatically assumes you're trying to swindle them to get Adderal, so they make you do another psych evaluation that will inevitably say the same thing as the last one. Defibutely doesn't affect mortgages. I doubt that it would affect vehicle licenses.

Seems important to double check yah? Vs randomly prescribe any medicine and person requests?

When the "double check" costs me $400 even though already has all my medical records including 60 pages detailing my previous psych evaluations? No, it's not important, it's completely superfluous.
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