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Re: Microsoft looks to tame Bing chatbot

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Post by ykonstant »

dorkwood wrote: post #12
alexb_ wrote: post #4

How much do I have to pay to have a chatbot that isn't neutered? Can I just have fun for once?

Unleashed LLM’s will be the real societal shift. Especially once they move from being reactive to proactive — sending you an article it read about your favourite hobby, checking in to see how your day’s going, or indulging in some sexual fantasy you’ve never been able to mention to anyone else. It really does feel like we’re moments away from “Her” becoming a reality.

>or indulging in some sexual fantasy you’ve never been able to mention to anyone else.

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Re: Microsoft looks to tame Bing chatbot

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Post by tyfon »

root_axis wrote: post #101
Baeocystin wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The cat's out of the bag. There's no way self-hostable versions don't come along, and soon.

The hardware necessary for self-hosting definitely won't be in reach of most people any time soon.

One day it will though.

I think we will also see a lot of weights optimisation/pruning and model architecture optimisations that allow them to run on much less hardware.

Re: Microsoft looks to tame Bing chatbot

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Post by cypress66 »

jojobas wrote: post #110
nerdponx wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No big company right now wants to be perceived as responsible for any of the number of bad things that could result.

How bad could it be? The AI would say the J-word and the newspapers would froth at the mouth for a couple of days? Free publicity.

J word?

Re: Microsoft looks to tame Bing chatbot

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Post by jerjerjer »

alexb_ wrote: post #4

How much do I have to pay to have a chatbot that isn't neutered? Can I just have fun for once?

Likely nothing. StableChat or some such is inevitable, and would be a next jump in AI proliferation, same as StableDiffusion was.

But, yes, after talking to Bing and seeing it have a "personality" (even if it was not the best one) talking to ChatGPT is just bland. I mean it was always bland of course, but with a comparison it's now more pronounced.

Re: Microsoft looks to tame Bing chatbot

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Post by RandomWorker »

curiousgal wrote: post #88
dzdt wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's really just amazing that today with a budget of millions of dollars we can produce a toy with fluent (if petulant) communication and logic on the level of a human child. Such a thing was unimaginable a decade ago, and the technology is in its infancy. There is every reason to expect great advances over the current state in the coming months and years.

Logic?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbestechcouncil/2022/01/07/wh...

A great example is computer assisted humans are the best chess players. Humans continually prod and break ai, but also improve it.

Another example was the go ai that could be beaten with a trick but humans would never fall into the same trap. But once the flaw is know, a response or learning can be introduced to the computer to solve these issues.

Re: Microsoft looks to tame Bing chatbot

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Post by onetokeoverthe »

silveroriole wrote: post #52
alexb_ wrote: post #4

How much do I have to pay to have a chatbot that isn't neutered? Can I just have fun for once?

Surely this is where the real money is, as long as they can draw up a good enough disclaimer to get out of being responsible for what the AI says. Everyone on Earth wants a friend or pet who gives them emotional validation, and who cares if that friend/pet is artificial or not? The neutered ones are too boring to be friends with, but people formed an emotional connection with Sydney even though she seemed only partia…

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Post by andsoitis »

dorkwood wrote: post #12
alexb_ wrote: post #4

How much do I have to pay to have a chatbot that isn't neutered? Can I just have fun for once?

Unleashed LLM’s will be the real societal shift. Especially once they move from being reactive to proactive — sending you an article it read about your favourite hobby, checking in to see how your day’s going, or indulging in some sexual fantasy you’ve never been able to mention to anyone else. It really does feel like we’re moments away from “Her” becoming a reality.

> It really does feel like we’re moments away from “Her” becoming a reality.

the smoke and mirrors is working

Re: Microsoft looks to tame Bing chatbot

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Post by mytherin »

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #21
paxys wrote: post #13

Remember a week ago when everyone was convinced that Bing was going to dominate Google in search?

Google is only the leader currently because people have forgotten how much better google 10 years ago was. Yandex destroys google today in image search by shipping a product like 10 years ago google image.

Feature were stripped from Google Image Search because of a lawsuit [1]. Yandex, Bing and others can offer a better image search because they are not big/important enough to sue in the US search engine market. If Google were to be dethroned, the company that would take over its current dominant position would also be sued and would likely have to make the same changes.

[1] https://www.lifehacker.com.au/2020/01/what-happened-to-googl...

Re: Microsoft looks to tame Bing chatbot

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Post by RandomWorker »

replicanteven wrote: post #76
SQueeeeeL wrote: post #10

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It's really just amusing that we've spent millions of dollars of fossil fuel and man hours training a toy that's really no better than a petulant child with no better logic

Hmm. It looks like natural gas is a little less than $2.50 / GigaJoule (~29.3kWh) at the moment. One A100 eats about 400W, and apparently OpenAI used about 1023 of those running for 34 days to train ChatGPT[1]. There's also a bunch of supporting equipment, so maybe they used around 500W * 1023 * (34*24=816)hrs = 417,384kWh? I think that would be around $35k in fossil fuels, assuming none of the datacenter's energy ca…

-420,000 kWh X 30 year average grid emissions data California 0.233kgCO2e/kWh = 98tCO2e which is about the emissions of 7 households in the USA for one 2021 year.
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