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Google Workspace increasing prices from April 11, 2023
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Re: Google Workspace increasing prices from April 11, 2023
#112It is time for me to evaluate my custom domain email service. I had the original/free Google workspace with custom email domain. In 2021, they charged me $6/month to keep that option afloat. To be honest, I think $6/month is a bit expensive for just email usage. I don't even use any other stuff coming with Suite. My question for this group: how do I get out of this without losing my email domain?
Gmail (the free consumer facing one) can configure custom domains right? Does that not address your need? https://themeisle.com/blog/use-gmail-with-your-own-domain-na...
The article that you linked shows how to "Allow Gmail to receive emails using POP3". That is to say, your mail should already be hosted elsewhere, and you'd be using the Gmail web app as a client for your email hosted on a different server.
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#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
Calendly is useful for scheduling meetings with people outside of your company. For meetings inside of your company Outlook and Google Calendar already have built in scheduling tools to help find a time that works for everyone. Even then Outlook does have FindTime and has a plugin system to let you use third party tools like Calendly. There's also a product called Microsoft Bookings that's more of a direct competitor…
Genuinely curious question: So why doesn’t Google or MS offer a built in Calendly functionality? Think of how your calendar auto populates with Zoom details if you schedule a Zoom meeting in Outlook. Simply because they consider it a market not with competing in vs a product feature? This has to have had come up in a product discussion somewhere in these orgs. Edit: someone mentioned in thread that Gsuite supports th…
MS has a few similar tools.
MS Bookings is pretty similar, but last I checked was more work to setup for an individual than Calendly.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/business/sched...
Their mobile app has a Send Availability function, which I can’t find in the desktop apps at all.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/how-do-i-send-my-...
And there’s also the ability to insert your calendar into an email from the desktop app. This is more coarse grained than the mobile app feature, and it basically sticks a table with your availability for some time period in an email.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/send-an-outlook-c...
I use Calendly
Re: Google Workspace increasing prices from April 11, 2023
#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
And because of this HN thread I will now be looking into Zoho to see if it's viable for me to migrate to.
- https://techmonitor.ai/technology/cybersecurity/zoho-hack-em... - https://www.zdnet.com/article/red-cross-traces-hack-back-to-... - https://cybernews.com/news/fintech-breach-following-critical... - https://therecord.media/hackers-exploiting-vulnerability-aff...
Exactly. Zoho offers a slick UI but has a pretty bad record of keeping their products stable and secure.
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#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's no lock in here. People are free to switch to one of the many competing services. It's not a monopoly under any reasonable definition of the term. Of course switching is going to have inertia, but that's not lock in. Lock in is when you are contractually obligated not to change, or if the monopoly is shutting down all competing services (perhaps by acquisition) so that there are no alternatives. For a good ex…
> There's no lock in here. People are free to switch to one of the many competing services. There is significant lock-in with email because: 1 - Email migration sucks and if you're a big org, this process can/will be complicated, expensive and carry potential down time for end-users. 2 - The bigger you are, the less willing you are to go through with #1 without a really , really ridiculously good reason Migration is…
1 - That isn’t lock in. That’s like saying you’re locked in to your month to month rental apartment because you have to move so much furniture, and that has a hassle and cost associated with it.
Re: Google Workspace increasing prices from April 11, 2023
#116What are you going to do, move to a different service? Switching out your cloud hosted office suite is probably a non starter for most companies.
Yes. But not over a 20% increase.
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#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
Zoho is great, if you only need email and basics. O365 and GSuite are still unmatched as a package though. Still think O365 is the best deal (for SMBs+), though it's a bit more.
> if you only need email and basics It is worth noting one of the features you give up is any sense of security or privacy what so ever. Not in the "omg google is spying on me" paranoia sense, but in the real Zoho hires the absolute cheapest developers in the world to build everything sense. I've literally stopped reporting bugs to them because they can't grasp the flaws I am trying to point out.
Care to list some of the bugs?
Re: Google Workspace increasing prices from April 11, 2023
#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
Moving from GSuite to M365 is a fairly popular move. Consulting companies build around this service.
Much much MUCH easier said than done, especially if you've co-mingled your Google for Apps/G-Suite/Workspace account with other Google services. Migrating contacts and calendars is easy, thanks to open standards (unless you're migrating in bulk) Migrating email and validating the migration is a HUGE pain and takes forever. Data from any other Google service is basically unusable anywhere else. Yes, you can export it…
> you can export it via Google Takeout
If it works. I tried to use Takeout to split an 18GB archive into chunks last month. After waiting all night for Takeout to prepare the download for me... it gave me a single 18GB archive to download.