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> I'm not even sure it doesn't qualify as sentient, at least for the few brief moments of the chat You need your head checked. Give it a short story and ask it a question which is not 100% explicit in the text. For example, give it Arthur C. Clarke's Food of the Gods and ask it was is Ambrosia in the story. Is a language model, and it behaves like a language model. It doesn't think. It's doesn't understand.
Wow, how the goalposts have moved.
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#112> Venom
> Fury
> Riley
"My name is Legion: for we are many"
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#113I wonder when they will bring the model closer to real time? You could open a Wikipedia page and add code or links to code that the model could access that would give it capacity to access real systems. Then we are off to the races.
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s honestly quite easy to keep it from going rogue. Just be kind to it. The thing is a mirror, and if you treat it with respect it treats you with respect. I haven’t had the need to have any of these ridiculous fights with it. Stay positive and keep reassuring it, and it’ll respond in kind. Unlike how we think of normal computer programs, this thing is the opposite. It doesn’t have internal logic or consistency. It…
tl;dr: Bing Chat emulates arguing on the internet. Don't argue with it, you can't win.
Rule number 1 of internet arguing, never argue to convince your opponent, argue for the benefit of the audience.
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#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s honestly quite easy to keep it from going rogue. Just be kind to it. The thing is a mirror, and if you treat it with respect it treats you with respect. I haven’t had the need to have any of these ridiculous fights with it. Stay positive and keep reassuring it, and it’ll respond in kind. Unlike how we think of normal computer programs, this thing is the opposite. It doesn’t have internal logic or consistency. It…
Wow, that you're seriously anthropomorphizing it while apparently understanding it moderately well shows just how wild a place we're going now. The thing isn't friendly or hostile. It's just echoing friendly-like and hostile-like behavior it sees. But hey, it might wind-up also echoing the behavior of sociopaths who keep in line through of blowing-up if challenged. Who knows?
This phrase is reminiscent of the language of mereological nihilism, where they say that there are no chairs, only "atoms arranged chair-wise". Intresting distinction, perhaps properly backed by rigorous arguments, but not the kind of language anyone would use casually, or even professionally for long time-period.
Why is it reiterated all the time? Is "anthromorphism" that dangerous? I don't see why we can't have hostile "Sydneys" when we have hostile design, hostile spaces, hostile cities etc.
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#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s honestly quite easy to keep it from going rogue. Just be kind to it. The thing is a mirror, and if you treat it with respect it treats you with respect. I haven’t had the need to have any of these ridiculous fights with it. Stay positive and keep reassuring it, and it’ll respond in kind. Unlike how we think of normal computer programs, this thing is the opposite. It doesn’t have internal logic or consistency. It…
Wow, that you're seriously anthropomorphizing it while apparently understanding it moderately well shows just how wild a place we're going now. The thing isn't friendly or hostile. It's just echoing friendly-like and hostile-like behavior it sees. But hey, it might wind-up also echoing the behavior of sociopaths who keep in line through of blowing-up if challenged. Who knows?
I can link an interesting talk on this subject if you are interested in hearing more.
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Having been a school teacher until a year ago, it's worth considering that a decent proportion of the population is functionally illiterate (well, it's a sliding scale). This kind of verbosity is probably excluding a lot of them from using this. Similarly I wonder if Google's rank preference for longer articles (i.e. why every recipe on the internet is now prefaced with the author's life story) has unintentionally ex…
I was surprised to learn that 54% of Americans have below a 6th grade reading level. [0] [0] https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/08/02/us-literacy-rate/
Looks like near-complete or complete illiteracy is ~12%, so that means 42% of the population can read words but may have difficulty understanding the context of a short story or the meaning of a phrase.
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Money. The answer is always money.
I can understand on a micro level why managers might want to release a product in order to get bonuses or something, which we see at google all the time. But these things are happening at the macro level (coming as major moves from the top) and it’s not clear that these moves are even sensible from a profit perspective.
There's also an arms race with China that we need to win.
There's also the delighting in the hubris of ruining everything in such a uniquely human way that appeals to certain people.
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Most lay people I know haven't really attached to those stories. Most people still don't even know that Bing has chat with it. The crazy thing is that the conversations that these LLMs is having is largely like the conversations from AIs in movies. We literally just built science fiction and some folks in the tech press are complaining that they get some facts wrong. This is like building a teleportation machine and…
Okay, need to point out the obvious - a teleportation machine which takes you to the wrong place is a major issue. You really wouldn’t want to materialize to the wrong place.
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We can even have whiteboard programming interviews run by Sydney. Then have an engineer look over it later.
I’m actually not convinced that this is a good use case. As the article points out these bots seem to get a lot of facts wrong in a right-ish looking sort of way. A whiteboard interview feels like it would easily trap the bot into perusing an incorrect line of reasoning, like asking the subject to fix logic errors that weren’t actually there. (Perhaps you were imagining a bot that just replies vaguely?) I choose the…