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Re: Google employees criticize CEO for “dumpster fire” response to ChatGPT

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Whats with everything being a dumpster fire nowadays? how about a simple hot mess? or what happened to a good ol hell in a hand-basket? or Ninth Circle Of Hell? I'm sure there are better euphemisms than the dumpster being on fhir as that indicates someone stoking it whereas the reality is more indecision and inaction causing confusion and demoralizing the teams.

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Re: Google employees criticize CEO for “dumpster fire” response to ChatGPT

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could it be part of the aftermath of the layoffs?

The reaction to the layoffs is a good example of this. Lots of CEOs in the past have conducted layoffs pretty much the same way-- notify everyone at the same time (per local laws) and write an email blaming themselves as the cause. Yet the media ran article after article for almost 2 weeks with personal stories about how people felt particularly slighted by Google, when they did it pretty much the same way as other c…

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Re: Google employees criticize CEO for “dumpster fire” response to ChatGPT

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Here's the weird thing though, as discussed yesterday [1], the Microsoft demo was totally broken as well. In the end, everyone is looking for a big platform shift (next MOBILE!!!) and hype getting ahead of reality. When we look back in 3 months we will wonder why we thought LLM/GPT type queries will replace search in all forms. https://dkb.blog/p/bing-ai-cant-be-trusted

The other weird thing is, if someone is looking to have an edge in these sorts of things for their business, they should replace the AI helpdesks and automated emails with real, well-trained and friendly humans who will be an instant improvement, surefire hit with their customers, and cheaper on the R&D side to boot. But Google, and other companies, are spending huge amounts on bots that answer questions incorrectly,…

Oh, I see you've been on the receiving end of Google's poor support. It's almost as if the company is more concerned with investing in flashy AI and machine learning technologies than actually providing decent customer service. Sure, they might argue that these investments will pay off in the long term by creating a more efficient support system, but let's be real - if they can't even handle basic support requests now, what makes them think they'll be able to magically fix everything with a bunch of fancy algorithms? It's time for Google to stop ignoring their customers in favor of their shiny new toys.

*written by chatgpt

Re: Google employees criticize CEO for “dumpster fire” response to ChatGPT

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post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The reaction to the layoffs is a good example of this. Lots of CEOs in the past have conducted layoffs pretty much the same way-- notify everyone at the same time (per local laws) and write an email blaming themselves as the cause. Yet the media ran article after article for almost 2 weeks with personal stories about how people felt particularly slighted by Google, when they did it pretty much the same way as other c…

This is because Google immediately cut access to those people and treated them like personas non grata. It was a pretty bad layoff.

Immediately turning off access is common practice in a layoff

Re: Google employees criticize CEO for “dumpster fire” response to ChatGPT

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If I were IBM management, I'd be getting a laugh out of all of this. When IBM had to scale back their ambitions for Watson, especially those related to automating medical diagnoses, they were roundly mocked. Do not ask, dear tech companies, for whom the bell of AI overpromising tolls - it tolls for thee!

Re: Google employees criticize CEO for “dumpster fire” response to ChatGPT

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post #9

Here's the weird thing though, as discussed yesterday [1], the Microsoft demo was totally broken as well. In the end, everyone is looking for a big platform shift (next MOBILE!!!) and hype getting ahead of reality. When we look back in 3 months we will wonder why we thought LLM/GPT type queries will replace search in all forms. https://dkb.blog/p/bing-ai-cant-be-trusted

Google fears another Google+ moment I guess.

Re: Google employees criticize CEO for “dumpster fire” response to ChatGPT

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Has sundar been a good CEO otherwise?

Well he sat at the helm of a very powerful company during one of the largest and longest bull markets in history. Beyond being at the right place at the right time - did he do a good job? I would say that he is thoroughly mediocre. I don't get the sense that he is very strong as a technically oriented leader or as a product oriented leader. He seems more of a political/consensus leader who is trying to keep the peace without any principle other than 'be respectful'. You can see the problems growing. Costs grow faster than revenue and irrelevant projects drag on, while nobody is providing a clear vision about why anyone should care and why these product are going to be the best. Google does fine without too much leadership so maybe this isn't the worst. That said I think he would be remembered more positively if he were to be fired in the next 6 months.

Re: Google employees criticize CEO for “dumpster fire” response to ChatGPT

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People hating on Sundar completely overlooking the fact that he pivoted Google to an AI first company 6 years ago, way before AI was hyped up. https://venturebeat.com/ai/ai-weekly-google-shifts-from-mobi... He funded the Brain team that came up with major research breakthroughs like Transformers that power ChatGPT. AI is embedded behind the scenes in pretty much every Google product, you just don't know it because it…

> Google to an AI first company 6 years ago, way before AI was hyped up

AI hype train started back in 2015.

Re: Google employees criticize CEO for “dumpster fire” response to ChatGPT

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Whats with everything being a dumpster fire nowadays? how about a simple hot mess? or what happened to a good ol hell in a hand-basket? or Ninth Circle Of Hell? I'm sure there are better euphemisms than the dumpster being on fhir as that indicates someone stoking it whereas the reality is more indecision and inaction causing confusion and demoralizing the teams.

i guess a hot mess is just a dumpster fire at a lower quantity and temperature
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