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We need to outlaw for profit anything with healthcare. The incentives are misaligned with society’s needs.

Boy you people really love banning things don't you. Why on earth would you _outlaw_ people from being able to see their private, for-profit family doctor.

I’m not sure who “you people” are. Doesn’t feel like that’s adding much to the conversation, nor does it incline me to participate.

Re: ERs are hiring fewer doctors to save money

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Why only healthcare specifically?

Because there shouldn't be a variety of price points, and innovation should not be hoarded. Healthcare should be uniformly the best it can be.

Agree but the question is why specifically only healthcare

Re: ERs are hiring fewer doctors to save money

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Please correct me if I'm wrong here: You save $45 on the professional services, but you still pay the same facility fee (~$1000), the CT scan still costs the same (~$5000), labs are still the same (~$110)... etc. So maybe you have saved ~1% seeing an NP, hence why I said "billed the same", although you are correct that they are not the exact same. Now imagine that a NP orders a CT scan that was unneeded 1% more often…

Again - this is far too complex to "first principles" your way out of. You need to be clear who you're talking about when you talk about savings (savings to the patient?, to the private insurer?, to medicare/medicaid?,to the hospital?, to the taxpayer if it's a public health system?) and even still, it will vary massively given that much of our care is state-driven. Your figures e.g. for a CT scan are wildly wrong if…

I care about savings to the patient and taxpayer if that's helpful. I just googled "average cost of emergency department CT scan", I agree that is not what Medicare would reimburse.
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