Immediate resignation reason and turns out the ones who got recently laid off are the real winners as they walk away with a severance package at least.
GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023
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Re: GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023
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The point of dogfooding isn't feeding your employees any old dog food. The point of dogfooding is that the dog food you make is so damn good your employees prefer it over making lunch boxes or eating out. (It doesn't have to be perfect, or course, just do something better than its competitors to be attractive to use. I struggle to think of a single redeeming feature of Teams.)
>The point of dogfooding is that the dog food you make is so damn good your employees prefer it over making lunch boxes or eating out. I don’t know if I’m misunderstanding how you’ve put this, but I’ve only ever understood dogfooding to mean that you use your own product to find the bugs, improve the workflow, and encourage feature suggestions. Dog-fooding is not a reward for making the best product (though that make…
> I’ve only ever understood dogfooding to mean that you use your own product to find the bugs, improve the workflow, and encourage feature suggestions.
I've only ever understood dogfooding to mean this as well, but I like GP's point. If you're forcing yourself to use the product to find bugs instead of using the product because it's a great product, then you have problems.
Re: GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023
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That's the problem: Microsoft isn't a company. They aren't a cohesive team working on a product. They are a corporation: a group of companies with separate trends writing on separate products. Is the GitHub team working on Teams now? I doubt it.
I hope they do. This can only improve Teams
Anything to make Teams better I would certainly appreciate bc it's a daily annoyance to use in any meaningful way.
Re: GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023
#115That’s plenty of time to dust off the resume and start pounding the pavement! Very generous of Microsoft to give so much notice! Edit: for those who may think I’m overreacting to a small change in tooling, I offer this classic essay [1]. It explains the reasoning behind leaving much better than I could! [1] https://steveblank.com/2009/12/21/the-elves-leave-middle-ear...
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You must not have to use Teams much at work. It really is that bad!
Re: GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023
#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's overtly harsh take I think. Teams has issues; but asking employees of a company to use said companies tools internally isn't necessarily a bad thing. Hard to improve without dogfooding.
Team has issues is the understatement of the year. A simple feature like screen freeze has been requested per use in the thread below hundreds of times... "Between different messaging boards (including the link above) this feature has been requested over 2000 times (1044 times as of this writing on the link above alone). Could Microsoft chime in to let us know if this is going to be on the roadmap? Thanks." https://a…
Stagnant feature requests are the least of Teams' problems.
It's a slow buggy resource hog that crashes frequently.
Features keep getting added but until they address the fundamentals, all they're doing is polishing a turd.
Re: GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023
#117How is it possible that Teams is still such a poor product? I really didn't like it when my job switched like 6 years ago, and I don't recall ever feeling that it improved in any meaningful way. I switched jobs to one using Slack and it's not perfect but it is a lot better. It's almost a meme at this point. In the presence of other clients that have gotten it "right" (or at least more "right" than teams) like Slack,…
I don't disagree with the limitations of Teams, but Microsoft improved their video call/conferencing software substantially when they moved from Skype for Business to Teams. At least things haven't been entirely stagnant.
Re: GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023
#118Immediate resignation reason and turns out the ones who got recently laid off are the real winners as they walk away with a severance package at least.
That would be a rather silly reason to quit over, wouldn't it?
Re: GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023
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Re: GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023
#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
Team has issues is the understatement of the year. A simple feature like screen freeze has been requested per use in the thread below hundreds of times... "Between different messaging boards (including the link above) this feature has been requested over 2000 times (1044 times as of this writing on the link above alone). Could Microsoft chime in to let us know if this is going to be on the roadmap? Thanks." https://a…
They don’t even have something as simple as a key combo to mute and other basic functionality (macos).
Why is this such a hard thing to get right? WebEx seemingly has 4 different mute keybinds, depending on the style of meeting you're in. It's worse than nothing because you randomly mash keys, making it look like you're not paying attention.