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7.8 magnitude earthquake hits Turkiye

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Re: 7.8 magnitude earthquake hits Turkiye

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Post by pdmccormick »

testfoobar wrote: post #40
gorkemcetin wrote: post #15

I have never seen an earthquake covering such a wide area. I confirm collapsing buildings in at least 5 cities. There is a big chaos on social media as well - many people asking for help since they are stuck under debris. What a disaster!

I accidentally saw one of these videos on Twitter. As a human, seeing a young person suffering, frightened and calling for help in real time when I can do nothing felt disgustingly voyeuristic. Perhaps humans who have never met and will likely never meet were never meant to connect in this way? The situation is apparently quite grim with the broad scale of devastation. I hope technology can help guide and focus resou…

I vividly remember watching videos of the 2011 Japanese tsunami rolling inland. Seeing cars and bicyclists that looked like small toys that were completely oblivious to the torrent of water that was about to be upon them gave me such a sickening, helpless feeling.

Re: 7.8 magnitude earthquake hits Turkiye

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Post by jcranmer »

midoridensha wrote: post #107
rippercushions wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They can ask politely though, and spellings and names do change over time.

They can ask, but their request is stupid. The English language does not have any kind of facility for umlauted characters.

How naïve of you.

(Although, technically, that's a diaeresis, not an umlaut.)

Re: 7.8 magnitude earthquake hits Turkiye

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Post by joshuahaglund »

midoridensha wrote: post #92
pyuser583 wrote: post #51

Oh wow, that’s terrible. My spellchecker needs to be updated because it doesn’t want me writing “Turkiye.”

"Turkey" is the correct spelling in English. The Turkish government doesn't get to dictate what their country is called in other languages.

The US State Department has already adopted the new spelling, so you're wrong. https://www.npr.org/2023/01/08/1147704945/the-state-departme...

It's silly to think things don't change and rude to call people names they don't want to be called

Re: 7.8 magnitude earthquake hits Turkiye

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Post by defrost »

midoridensha wrote: post #107
rippercushions wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They can ask politely though, and spellings and names do change over time.

They can ask, but their request is stupid. The English language does not have any kind of facility for umlauted characters.

That'll be news to Motörhead and fans.

(English band formed in London in 1975 and rocking an umlaut ever since)

Re: 7.8 magnitude earthquake hits Turkiye

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Post by linhns »

vbezhenar wrote: post #95
gorkemcetin wrote: post #15

I have never seen an earthquake covering such a wide area. I confirm collapsing buildings in at least 5 cities. There is a big chaos on social media as well - many people asking for help since they are stuck under debris. What a disaster!

Why did the buildings collapse? They don't have a build code for seismic-dangerous zones? Or the possibility of this earthquake was never predicted?

This one really came as a surprise, and since people often only act when there's a precedent, sadly the building collapsed. They will learn from this, like the Japanese did.

Re: 7.8 magnitude earthquake hits Turkiye

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Post by duluca »

midoridensha wrote: post #92
pyuser583 wrote: post #51

Oh wow, that’s terrible. My spellchecker needs to be updated because it doesn’t want me writing “Turkiye.”

"Turkey" is the correct spelling in English. The Turkish government doesn't get to dictate what their country is called in other languages.

Lol. Yes they do. There are dozens of instances of names of places being changed due to what the local population wants it to be called. Putting politics aside, disambiguating from the bird turkey is smart from a marketing and tourism sense.

Re: 7.8 magnitude earthquake hits Turkiye

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Post by midoridensha »

joshuahaglund wrote: post #113
midoridensha wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Turkey" is the correct spelling in English. The Turkish government doesn't get to dictate what their country is called in other languages.

The US State Department has already adopted the new spelling, so you're wrong. https://www.npr.org/2023/01/08/1147704945/the-state-departme... It's silly to think things don't change and rude to call people names they don't want to be called

News flash: The US State Department is not the authority on the English language either. Nor is the US government.

The only authority on the English language is popular usage.

Re: 7.8 magnitude earthquake hits Turkiye

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Post by midoridensha »

duluca wrote: post #116
midoridensha wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Turkey" is the correct spelling in English. The Turkish government doesn't get to dictate what their country is called in other languages.

Lol. Yes they do. There are dozens of instances of names of places being changed due to what the local population wants it to be called. Putting politics aside, disambiguating from the bird turkey is smart from a marketing and tourism sense.

>There are dozens of instances of names of places being changed due to what the local population wants it to be called.

Sorry, no, not outside a country, when dealing with foreign languages. Every language has different names for other countries, and they're frequently quite different from each other. Countries have no way of forcing foreign languages to adopt any particular name in those languages.

Re: 7.8 magnitude earthquake hits Turkiye

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Post by jcranmer »

csomar wrote: post #97
margalabargala wrote: post #91

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> He is probably more knowledgeable than the average person and has access to latest data on earthquakes. The person in question's area of "expertise" is claiming that when planets line up to form geometric shapes (e.g. when earth, uranus, and neptune form approximately an equilateral triangle) that this somehow affects seismic activity on our planet. The claim isn't that it's closeness of celestial objects causing t…

Two ways to verify this: - Enough data that the correlation becomes strong enough. - The physics community chimes in? I mean the effect could only be due to gravity unless there is another mechanism we don't understand. But given how small the earth is, and how big other planets are, I'd suspect the physics people to see this effect somewhere else?

> - The physics community chimes in? I mean the effect could only be due to gravity unless there is another mechanism we don't understand. But given how small the earth is, and how big other planets are, I'd suspect the physics people to see this effect somewhere else?

To be totally honest, we don't actually know what specifically causes earthquakes. That is to say, we understand that earthquakes are essentially the sudden, violent release of stress due to crustal deformation, but we don't have great ideas for understanding what causes the stress to be released so violently. As a result, even basic tasks like earthquake forecasting or merely distinguishing a mainshock from a foreshock (before the mainshock occurs) have turned out to be miserable failures.

But as for planetary orientations having an effect via gravity... well, let me put it in perspective. To exert the same gravitational pull on an object on Earth as Jupiter does, the average human being would have to stand does math 15cm away.

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