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Re: Gen Z Netiquettes

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Post by Jach »

butler14 wrote: post #37
ehnto wrote: post #33

The full stop thing has been around since IRC networks, or I imagine any quick-response short message platform. No one ever explicitly explains it or notes it, you just pick up on it. Same with the difference colours of laughter "lol, rofl, haha, hahaha, lmao, ha." They're all just laughing but I bet you had different ideas about how each of them feel. This happens with language at large, synonymous words pick up nua…

Logged in to say the same; all of these have ultimately formed back in IRC days and have aged remarkably well since The only one that is new (and therefore annoying to me as an Old Internet Man) is the insistance of adding emojis into every sentence For a while I could guess someones approximate age because of it, but now some of my 40+ friends have started emojiing like a 14 year olds too

It's been amusing to see the evolution of things like 'lol' in particular go from ubiquitous to very much frowned on and now back full circle to being a lot more common. I don't think "xD" and friends will come back though, especially with emojis.

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Post by _dain_ »

Havoc wrote: post #91

Stupid question perhaps, but how does one separate sentences without fullstops then?

the article doesn't get the rule quite right. if you're sending a message with more than one sentence in it, a full stop is fine. but on shorter messages, the end-of-sentence is implied by the end of the message, so putting in a full stop on top of that is redundant. it seems like you're putting extra emphasis on the ending part, and the implication is something like: "there will be no further discussion." so it can seem hostile.

and this isn't a gen z thing. it's just how instant messaging has worked forever.

Re: Gen Z Netiquettes

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Post by tjoff »

hollowcelery wrote: post #105
butler14 wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Logged in to say the same; all of these have ultimately formed back in IRC days and have aged remarkably well since The only one that is new (and therefore annoying to me as an Old Internet Man) is the insistance of adding emojis into every sentence For a while I could guess someones approximate age because of it, but now some of my 40+ friends have started emojiing like a 14 year olds too

Emojis are a more granular and expressive form of the more traditional lol, rofl, haha, :), :(. They’re a useful side channel for expressing tone.

That isn't a feature though. As it means and renders completely different in different contexts and apps.

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Post by cal85 »

demindiro wrote: post #97

Meanwhile I've never encountered these "netiquettes" whoever I'm talking to. Perhaps every generation isn't a monoculture.

Yep, these kind of articles are nonsense clickbait.

The idea that there’s a special GenZ rule about full stops is bullshit. It’s all just tone and context. If you’re texting someone who evidently likes ending every message with a full stop, you obviously aren’t going to assume every single message is insulting (unless you’re an idiot or very paranoid). If you’re texting with someone who never uses full stops but then they suddenly use one at the end of a message and the message is kind of abrupt (like if it’s refusing a request) then it might feel kind of ‘firm’. This is something any intelligent/sensitive person, at any age, could pick up on, or not. It’s nothing to do with GenZ. It’s been this way since the start of internet messaging. It’s just recently become a dumb meme that fills column inches in newspapers because it creates a confused talking point where boomers etc are supposed to be aghast that they’ve been accidentally offending GenZ people by using full stops. It’s just dumb, dumb, dumb.

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Post by proto-n »

I'm far from gen z, but I spent a lot of time communicating through chat in the past ~20 years, and I've gotta say, to me, most of this is not "Gen Z" stuff, but "chat native" stuff. It becomes pretty obvious pretty soon when somebody doesn't really know the (for lack of a better word) language of these small nuances and a bunch of others, like message length, timings, etc.

It's not done to be edgy, or to fit in, or anything like that. Its different tones in text. If the other party doesn't speak this language, then the communication becomes very literal, very formal. Kind of like how someone who is oblivious to social cues comes across in spoken conversations, only without the stigma, as its quite normal to not know this stuff. But it's much harder to 'feel' the other person.

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Post by ben_w »

bitwize wrote: post #20

Not stated, but implicit: If you have an Android phone, throw it away. No one wants to see your green bubbles, and no one can see if you've seen their texts if you have an Android. Get an iPhone, like 90% of Gen Z. Or gtfo.

This is a big surprise to me, mainly because the only time I get things in Messages.app it's an SMS from a business, 90% of which are either 2FA auth codes or my phone company telling me when the next payment/topup will happen.

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Post by marginalia_nu »

hollowcelery wrote: post #109
marginalia_nu wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My impression of people who write like that is that they're 9 years old and somehow made it on the big-boy Internet. Mostly because the content of messages written in that fashion gives that impression as well. It's sloppier than the average youtube comment.

What a bizarre take. Who do you work with? The majority of people I’ve worked with of all ages at various companies default to all-lowercase in casual communication, including some of the most intelligent and expressive people. As the other commenter said, it’s perceived as friendlier and more casual. Messages with capitalisation and completely correct grammar in these settings comes off as stilted and corporate.

I've literally never seen this in 15 years of working.

Re: Gen Z Netiquettes

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Post by Jach »

eschatology wrote: post #35
Dalewyn wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Serious take: The new generation rejects what was acceptable to the previous generation as part of the process of developing their own identity. Humorous take: Sensitive snowflakes gonna sensitive.

Here's an attempt to demonstrate how :) can come off as very toxic or passive aggressive: --- Serious take: The new generation rejects what was acceptable to the previous generation as part of the process of developing their own identity :) Humorous take: Sensitive snowflakes gonna sensitive :)

I got into the habit of using =P to suggest humor or not being too serious, but since I picked it up from someone at least 10 years older than me, I suppose it could come off as toxic or arrogant to people 10 years younger and none have told me yet

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Post by IncRnd »

detourdog wrote: post #110
ehnto wrote: post #33

The full stop thing has been around since IRC networks, or I imagine any quick-response short message platform. No one ever explicitly explains it or notes it, you just pick up on it. Same with the difference colours of laughter "lol, rofl, haha, hahaha, lmao, ha." They're all just laughing but I bet you had different ideas about how each of them feel. This happens with language at large, synonymous words pick up nua…

I believe fullstop is from the telegram days.

It's from Aristophanes of Byzantium in the 3rd century BCE.
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