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This is such a weird topic. The comparison is between companies that didn't exist 20 years ago like Meta and the 50 year old industry veteran Apple. Of course Apple didn't hire as fast, they were established. That's like saying a 20 year old college student grew more over the past decade than a 40 year old engineer. Yea, that's how life works.
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In a world where when Apple puts a dialogue on your phone, that when they try track you with ads, they ask "allow us to enhance your experience?" whereas when other companies try to track you, they ask "allow to track you across apps and websites?" In a world when you can't even hint at the existence of a payment mechanism outside the App Store to get subscriptions? It's not the most anticompetitive but it's definite…
They single handedly killed PWA in iOS, they should get split up just for that
Adobe is swimming against the layoff tide as well. Granted it’s comparing apples to… adobes, but my point is it’s not all doom and gloom in the valley.
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Most Apple employees are shareholders. I don't get the point that the money should belong to the customers. They gave it to Apple freely upon exchange for a product. Your argument kind of sounds that products should be sold at cost.
Well, cost plus a reasonable markup, but yes. None of this "charge as much as the market will bear" bullshit. And does Apple offer stock to its retail employees?
https://techpp.com/2023/01/25/tech-layoffs-apple-2023/ > Amazon, for instance, hired about 780,000 people during the pandemic. Meta, too, had more than doubled its staff in this period, going from about 40,000 to 87,000. Even Microsoft had hired about 77,000 people just before the pandemic. > Apple, in comparison, is believed to have hired under 20,000 people during the period of the pandemic. Can't layoff people you…
The Amazon new hire numbers represent all workers (and almost entirely - warehouse/logistics). The Amazon layoffs numbers represent corporate roles. Someone is comparing Apples and Oranges
Meta (and Amazon) weren't with the hiring boom.
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You make them sound like saints. They are not, and they have a history of being less scrupulous than some of these other companies. Here's just a small example of what they're capable of when their obsession for secrecy and control makes them flex their corporate muscle: http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/mobile/09/07/iphone.5.probe/ind... And we didn't even talk about their sweatshops in China which has always had persist…
> where employees kill themselves an awful lot Is that true? Last I read[0] "the suicide rate was comparable to its host country’s". 0: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jun/18/foxconn-l...
I mean, it’s mostly a topic, but I expect more suicide from unemployed, disabled or old people, not employed adults.
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Did the pandemic really increase business so much that they had to hire that many people?
Depends on the company but yes. Stripe, as an example, drastically slowed down hiring when the pandemic hit expecting an economic slowdown. It then turned out that so much commerce moved to online—rather than stopped—so they ramped up hiring to meet demand. The bet that companies like Shopify and Stripe [1] made was that COVID created a “new normal”; much of the economic activity that went online would stay there. Th…
The biggest thing I got from the pandemic is flexible work arrangements. But I and everyone I knew all wanted to get back out there. Just not back out on public transport to work. We were doing things online because there was no other option.
But once the borders opened and restrictions eased, everyone did what they said they would. Travel. Eat out with their friends. Play their old sports. Who in their right mind would think they would continue to stay home and do everything online?
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Most Apple employees are shareholders. I don't get the point that the money should belong to the customers. They gave it to Apple freely upon exchange for a product. Your argument kind of sounds that products should be sold at cost.
Well, cost plus a reasonable markup, but yes. None of this "charge as much as the market will bear" bullshit. And does Apple offer stock to its retail employees?
Apple is a generally more well run, mature, patient, and scrupulous company than most others.
It would be nice instead, if they used their cash hoard to stop wasting time upgrading the iphone with more superficial shit. Bring prices of the phones down to 50 bucks. Put it in the hands of everyone. And kill the toxic advertising supported attention economy that has caused chaos all over the world.
Now its just another group of unimaginative optimizing corporate robots, with no actual compass heading beyond hoarding cash.