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The gas industry is paying Instagram influencers to gush over gas stoves (2020)

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Post by fatnoah »

jsdalton wrote: post #54
glanzwulf wrote: post #4

Today I found out I'm a paid influencer. Shame nobody told that to my bank account or my instagram followers. To me gas stoves are the best, and now that I don't have one I miss it even more.

Do you have an induction stovetop now or a regular convection? Because in my experience induction is vastly superior to both convection and gas stoves. It provides far more and faster heat, cools nearly instantly and the nice ones at least give you flexibility where you put your pan. The downside of induction is it doesn’t work with all pot types. The big advantage gas retains is the ability to see with your eye exac…

As a very frequent cook (with a high CFM vented range hood) I'm very excited to move to induction, but the main issues I had when checking a while ago was the lack of an ability to eyeball the level of heat and the lack of front control knobs (vs buttons or some other controls). I'm confident that I can adapt to the former and the latter seems like it's not an issue any more as induction becomes more widespread.

Of course, I won't make that change until it's time to buy a new stove.

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Post by fatnoah »

astura wrote: post #63
fvdessen wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The reason why there’s a battle about gas stoves is that people care a lot more about the way they cook than the way they heat their house, but if they cook with gas, then they heat with gas. So if you want to push people away from gas heating towards electric heat pumps, then you need to attack gas stoves

>if they cook with gas, then they heat with gas Not true, at least not by definition. I heat with oil and cook with gas. My gas stove is fed by an outdoor propane tank that's filled once a year. When I was house hunting there were plenty of houses with gas ranges but I didn't see a single one with gas heat, that's really uncommon here.

Same. My neighborhood has lots of gas stoves, but no gas service. Nearly every house has propane for cooking and oil for heating.

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Post by dsr_ »

xiphias2 wrote: post #69
alamortsubite wrote: post #8

The "Rappin' with Gas!" video is featured in this Climate Town at about the 2:45 mark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hX2aZUav-54

Great, it explains the reason quite well: if somebody installs gas ovens, they probably get gas heating and water boiler as well at the same time (which is where the real money is at)

Interestingly, I have a gas hookup from the street that is not large enough for heating, only large enough to run an oven.

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Post by glanzwulf »

jsdalton wrote: post #54
glanzwulf wrote: post #4

Today I found out I'm a paid influencer. Shame nobody told that to my bank account or my instagram followers. To me gas stoves are the best, and now that I don't have one I miss it even more.

Do you have an induction stovetop now or a regular convection? Because in my experience induction is vastly superior to both convection and gas stoves. It provides far more and faster heat, cools nearly instantly and the nice ones at least give you flexibility where you put your pan. The downside of induction is it doesn’t work with all pot types. The big advantage gas retains is the ability to see with your eye exac…

I have a "decent" electric radiant type stovetop. I have tried induction before and I agree that it's better than what I have for example, but there's just things you can't do without the fire. I guess it's something that depends on how much you cook and what you cook. Can't char tortillas or veggies on the electric stove top.

Unfortunately for me, since I'm renting I can't change what I have and even if I could, it's pretty hard considering the country I'm in (Germany). Not too fond of gas over here.

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Post by fatnoah »

As someone that has a stove that uses propane as a source, I'm curious to see any information specifically about that. My 30 minutes of Googling seems to find things that are focused on natural gas and make no mention of propane. The only real info I can find is that propane has approximately double the BTU per unit of volume, and is (obviously) not primarily methane.

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Post by peteradio »

D13Fd wrote: post #105
peteradio wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Natural gas is the most common energy source for winter heat in America, do you believe that should be banned?

Yes, we absolutely have to figure out a way to transition away from it and both here an in other countries around the world. An outright ban probably isn't achievable or effective in the short term. We could tax it to raise the cost (discouraging use), and use those taxes to fund transitions away from gas to heat pumps or other solutions that don't involve pumping greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.

I don't know it strikes me as reactionary. If this comes down to CO2 there are bigger fish to fry, no?

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Post by mikrl »

cameronhowe wrote: post #66
mikrl wrote: post #7

It’s politicized too which is ridiculous. I’ve seen takes that being pro gas cookery is right-wing. Yes, it’s obvious that gas heat and cooking could cause respiratory issues due to combustion. As a gourmand though, cooking on a gas range is the best experience wrt temp control and convenience. I prefer an electric oven, and the heating system I’m impartial to, though radiant hot water is what I fondly remember from…

Can you elaborate how you find gas more convenient that an induction stove? I've worked in a kitchen with gas and I found it awful. It was harder to clean, you had to be really careful to not burn yourself when you had to do a quick wipedown. Making sure not only that you turned it off, but that anyone else there wasn't forgetful either. Induction like I have at home now is so convenient. I have no worries. It respon…

If the power is out I can cook my perishables for fun, it does the fire thing when you sauté which is somewhat cathartic.

I’ve only rented one place with a gas stove and it was mind blowing how good it was compared to those god awful glass top electrics (which I own now) despite it being ancient. Hated the oven though, hence gas range / electric oven.

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Post by basch »

punyearthling wrote: post #101
hospadar wrote: post #31

Induction maaaan! Switched from gas to induction and love it. I miss my stove every time i have to cook elsewhere. Mine is pretty much the cheapest induction range on the market (and i bought it used). Heats up way faster than gas (WAY FASTER, will get cast iron glowing if i leave an empty cast iron on the stove for a while at the highest setting), low/medium control is excellent and precise, and i really appreciate…

I imagine as more people adopt induction it'll get cheaper. I think most folks just assume it's an over-priced electric stove, so there's a learning curve to adoption. Anecdotally, I love my induction. It saves me so much time! When I first bought it a few years back, I was razzed quite a bit by co-workers whose only personality trait was they liked food. "You can't char peppers!" they'd exclaim. It's so funny to me…

Ikea has theirs priced under $1000. https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/saerdrag-induction-cooktop-blac...

I have their portable, which I think cost me $40 at the time, up to $70 now. https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/tillreda-portable-induction-coo...

It's well worth trying a portable one, especially if you don't have a slow cooker or pressure cooker already.

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Post by basch »

AYBABTME wrote: post #45
mikrl wrote: post #7

It’s politicized too which is ridiculous. I’ve seen takes that being pro gas cookery is right-wing. Yes, it’s obvious that gas heat and cooking could cause respiratory issues due to combustion. As a gourmand though, cooking on a gas range is the best experience wrt temp control and convenience. I prefer an electric oven, and the heating system I’m impartial to, though radiant hot water is what I fondly remember from…

You haven't used the fancy induction stoves, they beat everything in terms of temp control and speed. Plus you can program them and pair them with probes. See the Breville "Control Freak": https://www.breville.com/us/en/products/commercial/cmc850.ht... It's a game changer in a kitchen.

or the Tillreda https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/tillreda-portable-induction-coo...

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Post by ryukafalz »

sokoloff wrote: post #80
ryukafalz wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Two things: - That would have an immediate financial impact on people with gas boilers in a way that banning new gas appliances does not. This kind of thing would need to be rolled out very slowly over time if you want to avoid extreme backlash. Constraints on new construction don't have the same effects. (EDIT: Ah, you edited your comment to address this one - sure, if you can reliably distribute funds for lower-inc…

I just installed a new gas boiler (I wanted to go electric but it was massively economically disadvantageous). That thing is probably going to run for 20 years. If you have patience to wait a handful of decades, attacking gas stoves and waiting for trickle-up in consumer preferences to happen could be a good play. If you want faster change, tax and rebate is probably a better plan. Utilities already have the means to…

Rebates on appliances at least are happening: the Inflation Reduction Act has $4.5 billion set aside for rebates on new electric appliances. There's not a new tax at this point but I don't think tax/rebate and banning new gas installations are necessarily mutually exclusive.

> I just installed a new gas boiler (I wanted to go electric but it was massively economically disadvantageous). That thing is probably going to run for 20 years.

You're making a bet that gas will remain economically advantageous over electric for 20 years. I don't know about you, but the way the winds are shifting, that doesn't sound like a good bet.

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