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Re: Show HN: I spent 2 years building Tablane as a 17-year-old

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Post by rubidium »

z3t4 wrote: post #51
amitprasad wrote: post #12

Hey Marcus! Super cool to see another fellow Minecraft-jumpstarted developer. I got into programming way back in 2013 with Minecraft mods and then Bukkit/Spigot plugins. > I decided to look for open Developer positions, to work with a team of experienced developers so I can learn even faster. Seeing as you're in Europe and not in the U.S. (with exorbitant tuition costs), I would actually recommend against skipping ou…

All knowelage today can be found on the web. And you will never have any use of 95% of the course. If you get emplyed you will find that you already know more then the people with an engendering degree. But I still recommend getting a engineering degree for two reason 1) those with a degree earns 25% more then you because they can get more job offers 2) university/college is good for your social life. So if you alrea…

Bullshit.

The web is full of crap. To really learn you need to learn how to learn. Education still matters. Otherwise you’re just a gpt4 prompt monkey.

I’ve found many times in my life where the internet doesn’t know anything about what I’m trying to figure out. Your “just google It” recommendation is destructive.

Re: Show HN: I spent 2 years building Tablane as a 17-year-old

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Post by netsharc »

consp wrote: post #50

Nice job! I stopped reading at "Tablane is a workspace that adapts to your needs. It's as minimal or as powerful as you need it to be." This tells me nothing and triggers my "do not ever go there scam" sense.

The sentence was so generic it felt superfluous. It made me think of "Welcome to zombocom. You can do anything at zombocom."

Re: Show HN: I spent 2 years building Tablane as a 17-year-old

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Post by britannio »

marconlp wrote: post #48

I've seen a lot of discussion about my choice of looking for a job directly after Highschool. Reasons against college - I recently visited a College Conference and wans't really impressed by any of them, mainly because their presented curriculum where basic js, css, html, react, easy leetcode algorithms which I already know - I don't really happy with my current position in School, where I sit and listen to the teach…

I created a smart planner app at a similar age [1] and I'm now in my third year of university studying CS. I've also had a taste of industry from building a journal app as a freelancer [2], interning at a department of my uni [3] and interning at Wise [4].

- The whole js, css, html, react stuff sounds more like a beginner web dev bootcamp that should last a few months rather than a 3-4 year CS degree. Avoid that.

- Sometimes YouTube is great. E.g., a playlist from a Cambridge lecturer [5] was immensely more valuable than the live lectures I was being delivered alongside 200+ other students. I don't think lectures are efficient but I typically have a mix of lectures + labs + coursework and now, a substantial individual project supervised by a researcher. I'm excited for the future of edtech and programs like OSSU [6] are great if the focus is purely on absorbing CS content but its limited. Something else I found is that the modules I dreaded the most and certainly wouldn't have opted into had they been optional were the ones I learned the most from. Who knew that an Interaction Design class would be so relevant for doing customer discovery in a startup.

- No doubt that you can also have an income while studying.

- Pick up an internship to learn from experienced software engineers.

- The life experience is something I'll miss dearly, be it sports, socialising, dipping into the startup culture (We have an on campus accelerator).

- I stress more about turning down jobs than worrying about not having one.

If you have access to a quality CS degree that doesn't cost you a kidney then go for it.

[1] https://github.com/Cheon-App/planner [2] https://reflection.app [3] https://the-ciru.com [4] https://medium.com/wise-engineering/wise-engineering-interns... [5] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEAMfLPZZhE&list=PLeKd45zvjc... [6] https://github.com/ossu/computer-science

Re: Show HN: I spent 2 years building Tablane as a 17-year-old

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Post by jcq3 »

Don't listen to old folks, you're able to ship quality code production ready already, uni won't make you a better engineer comparing to a self taught path that you have already started and have made results with. The more you make money young the better it will compound through the years the earlier you can retire. Focus on making money, not degree. Keep this creative energy, bootstrap more projects, continue to bring value to the world... It will pay off. You're obviously talented, following uni will end up wasting your time which is highly valuable at that age.

Re: Show HN: I spent 2 years building Tablane as a 17-year-old

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Post by morbidious »

Rather than becoming an employee for others, I'd aim to start my own company. And looking at the set of your skills, which are better than a lot of people older than you, you could make that a reality.

Also, some honest advice: You should sell this. Don't give anything away for free!

Re: Show HN: I spent 2 years building Tablane as a 17-year-old

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Post by c0nsumer »

jcq3 wrote: post #116

Don't listen to old folks, you're able to ship quality code production ready already, uni won't make you a better engineer comparing to a self taught path that you have already started and have made results with. The more you make money young the better it will compound through the years the earlier you can retire. Focus on making money, not degree. Keep this creative energy, bootstrap more projects, continue to brin…

There's more to life than money, and more to uni than job training.

OP is clearly skilled and will do well, uni for well-roundedness will make them an even better person with broader skills.

Re: Show HN: I spent 2 years building Tablane as a 17-year-old

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Post by notpushkin »

rubidium wrote: post #111
z3t4 wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All knowelage today can be found on the web. And you will never have any use of 95% of the course. If you get emplyed you will find that you already know more then the people with an engendering degree. But I still recommend getting a engineering degree for two reason 1) those with a degree earns 25% more then you because they can get more job offers 2) university/college is good for your social life. So if you alrea…

Bullshit. The web is full of crap. To really learn you need to learn how to learn. Education still matters. Otherwise you’re just a gpt4 prompt monkey. I’ve found many times in my life where the internet doesn’t know anything about what I’m trying to figure out. Your “just google It” recommendation is destructive.

You are a GPT-4 prompt monkey. Your experience is your prompt data. The more diverse it is, the better off you are.

Now, college / uni plays an important role here. It helps you learn how to learn stuff. If you're already good at learning things (and I mean really, really good), you can skip it. Otherwise, you should at least give it a try. Of course, try to get into a good one.

Re: Show HN: I spent 2 years building Tablane as a 17-year-old

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Post by bruce511 »

z3t4 wrote: post #51
amitprasad wrote: post #12

Hey Marcus! Super cool to see another fellow Minecraft-jumpstarted developer. I got into programming way back in 2013 with Minecraft mods and then Bukkit/Spigot plugins. > I decided to look for open Developer positions, to work with a team of experienced developers so I can learn even faster. Seeing as you're in Europe and not in the U.S. (with exorbitant tuition costs), I would actually recommend against skipping ou…

All knowelage today can be found on the web. And you will never have any use of 95% of the course. If you get emplyed you will find that you already know more then the people with an engendering degree. But I still recommend getting a engineering degree for two reason 1) those with a degree earns 25% more then you because they can get more job offers 2) university/college is good for your social life. So if you alrea…

The problem with knowledge on the Web is that it's mixed in with a lot of noise, and, frankly, there's just too much of it clamouring for your attention.

So, sure, you can Google the hell out of CSS, and clearly that's good enough to build Web pages.

But equally there are a gazillion posts about everything, and no considered, coherent, path through it all.

A university maps a well-trodden, and hopefully well considered path through the knowledge. It leads you to places unknown, and sparks interest (and understanding) beyond just writing code.

For example you might randomly hear about P versus NP, or NP Complete, and decide to follow up on the web about that. Chances are though this might be the first time you've come across this. But I'm pretty sure it'll come up at college.

A degree course guides you through the knowledge, taking you places you didn't know existed. Over the long run this foundation makes it a lot easier to grow and do more than just "write code."

If you have the opportunity I recommend taking the time to do some formal study.

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