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Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

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Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

#111
I decided a while ago that I don't really need to watch TV or play video games, that it's a distraction from more fulfilling activities.

So I got rid of the lot and now spend my free time composing music and reverse engineering software that I find interesting.

I regard this as time much better spent than passively consuming media or getting lost inside virtual worlds adversely designed to be addictive.

And there's no need to even consider piracy, as I don't require these products. Though I'd pay for these items if I did desire them, just like I'll pay to watch something in the cinema now and again.

Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

#113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What did people think was going to happen with subscription services? That you get everything you wanted in just one? This was inevitable, I am not quite sure why people were so excited about Netflix. It just meant that we own even less of what we consume. When you brought a disc (or even a digital version of it), you can kind of claim ownership. With subscription services? You can't even morally argue that you own i…

You are missing an important thing. Netflix allowed a huge library of DVDs to be rented. You could have 3-4 DVDs on rotation for a rather cheap price. This happened when Blockbuster would charge you $5 per movie, and Netflix would charge $10.99 for unlimited DVDs, but you could only have 3 DVDs checked out. That's why Netflix was huge and killed Video Store rentals.

Is that why Netflix killed video stores? I don't know anyone who used it when it had DVD rentals (I don't even know if we had that option in Canada).

Myself and most people I know stopped renting videos when we could stream stuff easily.

Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

#114
After some technical know how and upfront time investment, piracy is genuinely easier and presents a better UX than the legal route.

With the suite of production-quality piracy automation software out there, as well as BYO media front ends like Plex et al, those who are so inclined are a long long long way past the ‘manually rifling through Usenet or Demonoid’ of yesteryear. One can simply visit a polished web UI of a piece of software running on their home network, and that they want every season of Letterkenny in 4K and it’ll be available to them within the hour.

Those who consume media this way don’t need to keep track of which steaming service has the rights to which property at the current point in time. Nor do they need to deal with inconsistent and increasingly Byzantine UXs of steaming service apps. They can instead enjoy a consistent interface on all of their devices with a single play queue, with even the ability to build playlists and collections of media that would otherwise be across streaming services.

I am significantly visually impaired and as such find it difficult to sit back on the couch and bounce between different apps and interfaces on my Apple TV. Were I inclined to consume media by way of piracy, I imagine that I’d find the experience to all in all be much more accessible than doing things the Right Way. All completely hypothetical of course.

The one thing that paying for and using streaming services has over the modern privacy approach, for one that has the prerequisite technical knowhow and ethics to pirate in the first place, is discovery / recommendation engines. The current suite of piracy apps make attempts to recommend new media to you, but obviously they can’t hold a candle to the millions of hours and petabytes of Big Data that powers…say…Netflix’s recommendation engine.

I genuinely believe that there’s a notable portion of pirates that would stop doing it if it were easier to consume content legally. This is why you see music piracy sinking deeper and deeper into the shadows. Comparing music consumption with movie or even TV show consumption has its limits, but were there a legal way to consume such content with a Spotify level of coverage, I think that it’d be quite compelling to these people. Of course, piracy is much less of a problem than it once was, so who knows if media companies even care anymore.

Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

#115

Why pay when you can take for free, is the idea?

More like, don’t pay until they curtail their segmentation of content across myriad of services, each adding n number of dollars and mental overhead of automatically renewing subscriptions bundled with certain must-pay-on-delivery for certain content that’s not available any other way.

We see their model, we need to stop the growth of it.

Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

#117
post #100

> “We think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem,” he said. “If a pirate offers a product anywhere in the world, 24 x 7, purchasable from the convenience of your personal computer, and the legal provider says the product is region-locked, will come to your country 3 months after the US release, and can only be purchased at a brick and m…

Ebooks are the worst offenders IMO. Most stores I’ve seen don’t even tell me the format or DRM, but I’m pretty sure it won’t be an open format

Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

#118
I just dont understand how media companies cant figure out that its QUALITY over Quantity. I dont want bullshit C list actors coming up with sharknado 3. Ok, maybe I do want that to some degree, but not all the time and everywhere. We get it, its cheap and easy to make. cool. no one wants to watch it and especially no one wants to pay AND watch ads to watch it.

Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

#119
post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My household has one streaming service at a time. We have lists (shared reminder lists in iOS) that we make for whenever a friend mentions a good movie - it goes on the Apple TV list, or Disney plus list, etc. then once enough films build up (can take 2-6 months sometimes) we purchase a subscription and watch all those shows for one month.

this sounds economical but also a major chore

Seems like it could be an opportunity for a website with all the news shows and movies on each platform. You check off the ones that seem interesting. It tells you what service to subscribe to after you hit a threshold. Not sure if any of the services have affiliate programs for revenue.

Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

#120

It depends. Games and music - no, I'm glad to pay for Spotify subscription, and I'm happy to buy a game every once in a while. Movies and TV shows - yes, if I cannot find them in Netflix. Sometimes I want to watch something, and it's not available in Netflix in my region, or not on Netflix at all. What choices do I have?

GamePass for me was the end of game piracy in any way. (plus competition between Steam and Epic lowering prices and making many more games accessible at cheap prices).

At this point for music there is so much free music available online that makes no sense to pirate anything. But I assume this depends on your music tastes.

For Movies and TV piracy is king especially if you live in a country where many less popular movies don't make it to the movie theaters and some streaming networks (e.g. hulu, disney+ etc) are not available.

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