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Why 536 was 'the worst year to be alive' (2018)

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Re: Why 536 was 'the worst year to be alive' (2018)

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The vast majority of that food is grown as animal feed. Only 27% is consumed directly by people. That's a huge buffer in an emergency.

No it's not. This is false. First of all, for example, WRT to soybeans, only 20% of the bean can be used to derive oil, which is the ingredient most often used in processed human foods (not the healthiest but I digress). The other 80% of the bean would have to be discarded if not used for meal to feed chickens and pigs [1]. But if the beans do not grow at all you don't get meal or oil. Same is true of corn silage. Th…

>The other 80% of the bean would have to be discarded if not used for meal to feed chickens and pigs

No. That is how it is currently used, but in an emergency you could make soy flour, tofu, etc. The calories are consumable even if it's not what we typically eat.

Or, more relevantly, the land that is used to grow soy could instead be planted with corn (or perhaps winter wheat in a post-volcanic scenario). Right now we're planting out crops to optimize for market value, which is driven by livestock feed use. If we instead optimized for human nutritional value, we could easily double output by mostly eliminating livestock (even accounting for the loss of nutrition provided by the livestock).

>Needless to say though, if our agricultural systems are producing 73% less crops and livestock there will be ~73% less humans.

An incredible oversimplification.

Re: Why 536 was 'the worst year to be alive' (2018)

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How interesting that a bunch of tech nutcases now want to geoengineer the planet by dispersing sulphur into the stratosphere to dim the sun to 'tackle' climate change. Mind-blowing stupidity.

Maybe so, but please don't fulminate or call names on HN. You may not owe tech nutcases better, but you owe this community better if you're participating in it.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Why 536 was 'the worst year to be alive' (2018)

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post #112
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How interesting that a bunch of tech nutcases now want to geoengineer the planet by dispersing sulphur into the stratosphere to dim the sun to 'tackle' climate change. Mind-blowing stupidity.

Maybe so, but please don't fulminate or call names on HN. You may not owe tech nutcases better, but you owe this community better if you're participating in it. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I apologise. In my defence, it's only geo-engineering which gets me so riled up. But of course you're right, and I should, and will, tone it down completely.

(I'm not sure I have been guilty of 'fulmination' though :) )

Happy New year.

Re: Why 536 was 'the worst year to be alive' (2018)

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post #96

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No, regular qwerty. Is there a tell from how I was writing?

You wrote 'feetback' instead of 'feedback', and Colemak is the only popular layout (vs Qwerty and Dvorak) where 't' and 'd' are right next to each other.

Haha, interesting!

Re: Why 536 was 'the worst year to be alive' (2018)

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Assuming your doomsday predictions are correct and all this time... then assuming your counter to the prediction is correct. Ya'know what... go right ahead and try to terraform the Earth to whatever you think is... best. Your doomsday prediction may then come true actually. Self fulfilling prophecy and all that. God speed in making your artificial ice age.

> artificial ice age Oh good grief. Are you getting your position here from Snowpiercer?

My position is to not do these things as we cannot know the repercussions and we don't have a great track record.

Your position is to try to simulate a volcano to cool the Earth and "let's just see how it goes".

Ignoring the fact if we do that, then a natural volcano could go off as well and set us over the edge, causing an ice age.

Sure you can hand wave away the repercussions pointing to a movie, but it's still your stupid suggestion.

And what retarded logic that is, just because Armageddon is a movie doesn't mean asteroids aren't a threat.

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