Hi OP, could you please share which org in amazon were you planning to join? Cuz I was told by my manager that 2 ppl from EU will join our team in Vancouver shortly… and we are a new team…
Amazon rescinding the offer while I am on the notice period
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#112What country is this? US? Is it 30 days or 60 days?
Its in EU. 60 days to be exact, but accounting the new hear headcount calculations etc and all interview stages, it would be so hard for me
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#113Hi OP, could you please share which org in amazon were you planning to join? Cuz I was told by my manager that 2 ppl from EU will join our team in Vancouver shortly… and we are a new team…
I think there are dozens of people like me.
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#114I am sorry to hear that Yury. The timing especially is unfortunate heading into the Christmas holidays.
I suggest talking to an EU immigration lawyer at the earliest about your options to continue living in the EU while you look for new employment. You can do a quick phone consultation (in the US it costs about $75 for a 20 minute consultation with a lawyer, I hope something similar exists in your EU country).
From my own experience, there is no substitute for talking to a lawyer because they can give clear and crisp answers about your options.
Good luck and I hope you are able to overcome this hurdle.
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#115Rescinding an offer that's tied to a visa is just extra shitty, sorry this happened to you. Surely they know the consequences that you'll suffer. I wonder if the Amazon leadership chain that collectively decided to do this has any remorse. Edit: Feels like something that governments should tie to individual company's ability to use the visa program. Rescind a visa-tied offer (for no-fault-of-applicant reason), and we…
So what's the better option? Laying off someone already employed instead? It's not extra shitty, it's just as shitty as any other situation. It sucks for the person involved but the alternatives are not better. At least someone that got their offer rescinded can sue for promissory estoppel.
If they need to lay off people, why are they advertising for, recruiting and offering jobs to people?
If they can't do simple things like not hiring people they don't need, maybe they should employ this guy as HR manager.
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#116Is your current post already filled? I'm in the EU and filling positions left by people resigning has taken months. Talk to your old manager and HR. They might be more desperate than they appear.
Staying at a job that you resigned from is not a good idea, unless it’s very short term. For many reasons.
I used to think this but I’ve seen many “returning engineers” and companies love them because they already know the company-specific jargon and tooling, can navigate the internal systems and processes, and generally come up to speed faster. OP is already up to speed because he just left.
I only know one major US tech company with an explicit “do not rehire” policy (unless you are someone exceptional) and you probably don’t want to work there, no matter how shiny the brand is.
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#117176 points, 100 comments in 1 hour … downvoted by HN mods and off the front page immediately.
As a point of feedback, when mods get so obviously involved in suppressing content seemingly-valued by the community it would be nice to understand the motivation behind that.
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#118176 points, 100 comments in 1 hour … downvoted by HN mods and off the front page immediately. As a point of feedback, when mods get so obviously involved in suppressing content seemingly-valued by the community it would be nice to understand the motivation behind that.
How do you know it's downvoted by HN mods?
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#119You need a wrongful dismissal lawyer in the Canadian province you would have been working in. Canada has had a number of successful "wrongful hiring" lawsuits where the prospective employer has had to pay up. Likely you would win an amount equivalent to the severance you would be eligible for from your previous employer plus additional expenses for relocation. A letter from a wrongful dismissal lawyer will likely ope…
>Likely you would win an amount equivalent to the severance you would be eligible for from your previous employer plus additional expenses for relocation
I wouldn't be hopeful about this. Speaking from the UK, we have wrongful dismissal that's basically a breach of contract, so you're basically eligible for the notice period, which is 2 weeks, although I think it takes a week to kick in.
You could perhaps sue for other losses due to breach of contract but it wouldn't be wrongful dismissal and it would be a major departure from the British way of doing things.
However most British employment law protections stem from eu law. Wrongful dismissal is kind of a holdover at this point so it's possible Canadian law is now very different, despite being from the same root.
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#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not in the current market no.
I am from a 3rd world country. I was kind of believing in the notion of “pursuit of happiness”. I studied hard worked hard to make it into a FAANG so that I can live a decent life in a developed country and support my family and parents. Now it appears that I have risked the livelihood of my family for my stupid ambitions.
Your ambitions are not stupid but perfectly sensible and laudable. Unless there is something you didn't tell us you just have been really unlucky. So although your current situation sucks and must be very stressful, try not to lose heart and keep a cool head even if it's very difficult. If there is a signed contract, you have some legal avenues open to you and there are probably also quite a few people here on HN who would like to help you if they can. Finally unless you already tried that, it's also possible that either your last employer or one of the places that you rejected would still be willing to take you on if you explain to them what happened. And even if lost your apartment, you might be able to afford staying in youth hostels or similar for a while whilst you sort out your next steps.