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Re: Threeuk is blocking Tutanota

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Post by Matsta »

cjrp wrote: post #78
tomxor wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> trying to use mobile data was a joke. [...] This was in a small urban centre... called London In any significantly built up area 4G is mostly a dice roll among the 3 major UK providers. There will be little consistency when moving between locations and even the same location will change over time. This is because the radio bands used in 4G are now so saturated that you are aiming for the _least_ popular provider in…

I used to have this problem at major stations like London Bridge. Full 4G signal bars, but no actual throughput. Seems to have gotten better lately, not sure if that's the effect of 5G or reduced passengers due to WFH.

I was on 3 until my contract ran out a few months ago, but it was still that bad. Oxford Circus you have full bars of 4g but no signal at all. I was going in quite alot last year before most people had returned to the office it made no difference to pre covid.

I think part of the reason is that 3 only use a handful of bands where EE has a bunch more to spread the load.

Was the same when I needed to tether my phone, always had no signal but couldn't load anything. Had to hotspot off colleagues phones. This was all over central London (Shoreditch, London Bridge, Holborn)

Moved to EE and now don't have any issues.

Re: Threeuk is blocking Tutanota

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Post by irusensei »

Question to UK people based on the responses I’m reading here.

If I, a privacy loving person were ever to migrate to the UK is it possible to have a as private and unrestricted anonymous internet as much of the rest of the sane world? Both this and previous thread mentioned some really ridiculous things like lifting restrictions through credit card or drivers license.

Re: Threeuk is blocking Tutanota

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Post by candaceshrock »

fmajid wrote: post #85

The UK is almost as bad an enemy of the Internet as Australia and the nanny-state filters are beyond obnoxious. Back when I was with “Vodafone Full Fibre broadband” (in reality shitty VDSL because the truth-in-advertising authority gave ISPs license to lie), they had accidentally blocked StackOverflow for 3 days because it was actually the test site for implementation of the filters and they had been turned on by acc…

Their 5G coverage is shite also, I have smarty (three backend) running and if I’m lucky to get 5G, it’s never full strength.

Re: Threeuk is blocking Tutanota

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Post by nine_k »

tomxor wrote: post #96
fmajid wrote: post #85

The UK is almost as bad an enemy of the Internet as Australia and the nanny-state filters are beyond obnoxious. Back when I was with “Vodafone Full Fibre broadband” (in reality shitty VDSL because the truth-in-advertising authority gave ISPs license to lie), they had accidentally blocked StackOverflow for 3 days because it was actually the test site for implementation of the filters and they had been turned on by acc…

> A VPN is essential to defend yourself from the jackbooted UK government. I tend to agree. Unfortunately even VPN doesn't entirely solve it though. On the one hand wiregaurd makes this feel far more transparent and comfortable technically compared to how it used to with old fashioned crappy TCP over TCP style VPN... instead we now get low overhead, low latency, native, simple configuration etc. The only problem is t…

What downsides did you experience from being uniquely identifiable? I suspect browser fingerprinting still goes pretty far in most cases even if you are behind a typical ISP NAT.

OTOH for an extreme case, and non-web-browsing purposes, I can imagine automatically spinning a VM every N hours, setting up a VPN exit node by a script, and switching DNS to point to it, then spinning down your old node. It won't even need any shenanigans with WG keys if you use two (or more) keypairs in a round-robin fashion.

Re: Threeuk is blocking Tutanota

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Post by fmajid »

tomxor wrote: post #96
fmajid wrote: post #85

The UK is almost as bad an enemy of the Internet as Australia and the nanny-state filters are beyond obnoxious. Back when I was with “Vodafone Full Fibre broadband” (in reality shitty VDSL because the truth-in-advertising authority gave ISPs license to lie), they had accidentally blocked StackOverflow for 3 days because it was actually the test site for implementation of the filters and they had been turned on by acc…

> A VPN is essential to defend yourself from the jackbooted UK government. I tend to agree. Unfortunately even VPN doesn't entirely solve it though. On the one hand wiregaurd makes this feel far more transparent and comfortable technically compared to how it used to with old fashioned crappy TCP over TCP style VPN... instead we now get low overhead, low latency, native, simple configuration etc. The only problem is t…

Yes. I use source routing to run my DNS through the VPN, but end devices go direct because too many streaming services or sites like Wikipedia ban VPN IPs.

Re: Threeuk is blocking Tutanota

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Post by vladvasiliu »

tomxor wrote: post #70
mwagstaff wrote: post #8

Slightly off topic, but I was with Three UK for a while. Reception was universally terrible, and trying to use mobile data was a joke. This was in a small urban centre... called London. Would never, ever touch them again. Back on topic, it seems that they are not using Bluecoat/Symantec Site review (which I suspect other providers do), which has the domain categorised correctly: https://sitereview.bluecoat.com/#/look…

> trying to use mobile data was a joke. [...] This was in a small urban centre... called London In any significantly built up area 4G is mostly a dice roll among the 3 major UK providers. There will be little consistency when moving between locations and even the same location will change over time. This is because the radio bands used in 4G are now so saturated that you are aiming for the _least_ popular provider in…

It's anecdotal, but during all my visits to London, pre-covid, I've always had good enough cell reception. I didn't watch youtube or similar, but I could always use google maps and city mapper, both of which I've used extensively since I'm not familiar with the city, or check random internet websites.

I didn't pay attention to which provider I was using, since it was probably chosen by whatever deals my home provider stuck with providers over there.

Re: Threeuk is blocking Tutanota

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Post by ridgered4 »

schipplock wrote: post #32
schappim wrote: post #3

The same privacy preserving features of Tutanota enjoyed by privacy conscious individuals, make it ideal for fraudsters. We experience a large number of fraudulent ecommerce orders using Tutanota email domains. I'm not shocked to think that this could be an example of an algorithm gone awry based on the signals it received.

You can register an account for free. You don't need to provide anything when registering an account, just choose an E-Mail and a password. Is that what you mean with "privacy preserving"?

Not through a VPN service though, at least in my experience.

Re: Threeuk is blocking Tutanota

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Post by Matsta »

secondcoming wrote: post #60
pzmarzly wrote: post #13

Interestingly, ThreeIE doesn't block them. And I'm fairly happy with them (>1Gbit/s on 5G still blows my mind), except for when I'm travelling to London and have to roam on 3 UK (I agree it sucks)

I use their 5G as home broadband in Edinburgh. Their service is better than Vodafone’s where I am.

3 Home broadband is a good deal if you're close to a 5g mast as their 5g gear is quite new. If you're not close to a mast or its 4g only, you'll have the complete opposite experience.

From what I've read, alot of 3 Towers only have a single 1gbit virgin fibre link so you're at mercy to who else is using the same tower. If it's in a area with alot of traffic, you'll probably have pretty crap speeds.

Re: Threeuk is blocking Tutanota

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Post by concordDance »

irusensei wrote: post #112

Question to UK people based on the responses I’m reading here. If I, a privacy loving person were ever to migrate to the UK is it possible to have a as private and unrestricted anonymous internet as much of the rest of the sane world? Both this and previous thread mentioned some really ridiculous things like lifting restrictions through credit card or drivers license.

Yes. Tor.

Re: Threeuk is blocking Tutanota

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Post by Matsta »

Unrelated to 3, but we had an issue where our brand new site was blocked by Vodafone UK. Turned out they had some automatic firewall service that marked our site as suspicious and blocked it. They seemed a bit better than 3 as there was a process for applying for it to be reviewed and removed.

I'm assuming something similar happened to 3 where it was probably automatically picked up and blocked.

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