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Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok

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Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok

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Post by maria2 »

mrtksn wrote: post #7

Why not regulate how the data is used or stored, like the EU does, but ban? I'm really hoping this doesn't become a reality because if it does, we will end up with partitioned internet and stagnation. People often forget that the US companies are foreign entity for most of the worlds population and with the WikiLeaks revelations we know for a fact that the US government has access to the data of American tech compani…

This has nothing to do with user data. People are influenced by the content they see on social media. Allowing a foreign adversary to run the main information network for an entire generation of the population is not a wise move.

Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok

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Post by babypuncher »

jzmorganchase wrote: post #106
babypuncher wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why ban TikTok by name and not by legislating away the specific bad things it does? I don't see anything in this legislation that would affect Instagram Reels or YouTube Shorts, both of which are using their own engagement-focused algorithm for recommending content. If being addicting is the reason we don't like TikTok, then why are we OK with it when a domestic company does it? Because Facebook lobbyists don't want…

Because the biggest concern is still Chinese ownership of US customer data. Not just the addictive features within the app.

I'm not any more comfortable with Facebook owning that data than the Chinese government. We've already seen the harm that comes from that.

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Post by nova22033 »

philjohn wrote: post #21
mrtksn wrote: post #7

Why not regulate how the data is used or stored, like the EU does, but ban? I'm really hoping this doesn't become a reality because if it does, we will end up with partitioned internet and stagnation. People often forget that the US companies are foreign entity for most of the worlds population and with the WikiLeaks revelations we know for a fact that the US government has access to the data of American tech compani…

US Tech firms products are largely banned in China, closing off a market of 1bn+ - why should Chinese firms have unfettered access to the US?

China banning US social media is bad for Chinese citizens. US banning any social media is bad for US citizens. TBH, I'm more worried about the rights of US citizens.

Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok

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Post by moolcool »

pseudolus wrote: post #79

"TikTok is digital fentanyl that’s addicting Americans, collecting troves of their data, and censoring their news." Is the conclusion that all forms of digital fentanyl should be banned or just Chinese ones? Because the reality is there's nothing too exceptional about TikTok's underlying algorithms. Will lawmakers be willing enact legislation against companies marketing similar "digital fentanyl" but that are America…

US law seems to have a Homer Simpson approach to protecting its citizens. "Nobody ruins my family vacation but me, and maybe the boy!"

Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok

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Post by dylan604 »

curiousllama wrote: post #44
dylan604 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This makes me wonder how much Meta is financing any lobbying effort to get this passed?

Probably a lot, but it's also not an absurd policy direction. Folks from all over have floated the vague notion that Tiktok is bad, independent of Meta. Rs tried to do it a few years ago, but implementation as a disaster. I'd imagine the lobbying effort would be less "briefcase full of cash" and more "can we hire smart people to think through policy mechanisms, in a way that's productive for both Rs & Ds" Though ther…

>but it's also not an absurd policy direction.

It is when you forget where the collected data ends up, and just focus on the hoovering of the data. FB is the OG of this realm, but because they are US based instead of Chinese based, they get a pass?

In the evils of data hoovering, I'm much more perturbed what theZuck knows about me much more than caring what winnie the pooh knows about me. All politics are local. If I lived in Beijing, then I'd have those concerns flipped.

Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok

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Post by dougmwne »

Why not? China doesn’t allow our social media. Why should we allow theirs? We can easily copy the best parts of the platform and let our companies take their users. Plus, social media can be used for mass political manipulation, and what justifies letting them hold that power over our population?

It’s good for our companies, it’s good for our people, and it takes away a dangerous tool from a country that is more and more an adversary.

I truly hope it is banned. Better late than never. Nothing against this rather brain-dead tech. Let Facebook/Google/Twitter have those users on the clones.

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Post by [deleted] »

mrtksn wrote: post #7

Why not regulate how the data is used or stored, like the EU does, but ban? I'm really hoping this doesn't become a reality because if it does, we will end up with partitioned internet and stagnation. People often forget that the US companies are foreign entity for most of the worlds population and with the WikiLeaks revelations we know for a fact that the US government has access to the data of American tech compani…

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