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Re: Twitter Office Supply Auction

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Post by rhaway84773 »

SanjayMehta wrote: post #86
lapcat wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reddit has an army of unpaid moderators. Not to mention the Reddit users who upvote and downvote. Also, politicians and other important public figures don't use Reddit like they use Twitter.

Anyone know why those unpaid mods do what they do? It's like a cult.

If there’s something I’m invested in, say programming, I wouldn’t mind spending time moderating a community about programming. Further, the moderation is a lot easier since basically all I have to do is determine whether something is programming or programming related. And people tend to usually follow moderation rules without claiming that moderation is an existential threat to their FREEDOM.

Twitter, OTOH, is a free for all cesspool. And that was with the moderation policies. Somehow it’s even worse now.

Re: Twitter Office Supply Auction

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Post by kgantchev »

gonzo41 wrote: post #17
SilverBirch wrote: post #13

This is pretty unsurprising, they're not really going to raise any serious money from this (what do we reckon? 1FTE Salary at most?) but they've got office space for 7.5k people and less than 3k less. Musk keeps saying "If you code come to the 10th floor" - which basically implies that their entire team of engineers fit onto 1 floor of the building and that there a load of empty floors now that don't need kitchens or…

Wouldn't it just be smarter to sublet the space and fill up the building. Rather than having empty floors on a building you barely use.

Not sure if their rental agreements allow that. Most don't.

Re: Twitter Office Supply Auction

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Post by pavlov »

PedroBatista wrote: post #73
pavlov wrote: post #11

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Apparently he’s looking to replace some of the expensive debt with new margin loans backed by his TSLA shares: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-12-08/musk-bank... IMO this Twitter deal has been nothing but bad news for Tesla shareholders. The CEO is completely distracted and forced to sell his shares, and the company has been dragged into stupid culture wars. Tesla brand perception has crashed among Democ…

That’s actually good news for Tesla in the long run. It’s a company that sells cars mostly to yuppies and woke buerguesie who drive the cars as a statement. Now it’s time to let this bird fly and see if it survives, for that it needs to appeal to the mass market and not just the ones who “move to Canada” every 4 years. Tesla stock like every stock is (over)valued based on the future, and at this point de-Musking Tesl…

Is that actually a good way to expand the market?

Apple around 2000 was stuck in a niche that would probably be described as “woke” today: graphic designers and hipsters.

The way that Steve Jobs broke out of the niche wasn’t that he suddenly started courting Dell PC buyers and went around saying: “Designers are dummies and ‘Think Different’ was a joke anyway.”

That’s basically how Musk is treating his existing Tesla customers now. (Including myself. The car is still good but I have serious doubts I’d buy another.)

Re: Twitter Office Supply Auction

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Post by nomdep »

bombcar wrote: post #61
capableweb wrote: post #42

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On that topic, the fridges and freezers currently have bids lower than the fucking tables, which is insane. Those are way worth way more than the current bids at 25 USD. Edit: seems I misunderstood and it's just the opening bids, the bidding hasn't started yet. Still strange that the opening bids are higher for a table than restaurant-style fridges/freezers.

The opening bids on auctions are almost always meaningless and set very low - the auction company knows that the valuable items will be bid up fast enough, and they do NOT want anything left over because then they have to dispose of it. Why some are 25 and some are 50 I'm not sure; they may raise the bid a bit on items they think might not get many bids.

Maybe it was set by someone has bought projectors and chair in the past but has no idea how fricking expensive is a large fridge

Re: Twitter Office Supply Auction

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Post by riffraff »

Victerius wrote: post #53
lapcat wrote: post #49

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Reddit has an army of unpaid moderators. Not to mention the Reddit users who upvote and downvote. Also, politicians and other important public figures don't use Reddit like they use Twitter.

> Also, politicians and other important public figures don't use Reddit like they use Twitter I think that may change in the future. Many politicians, including prominent ones, have done AMAs. Arnold Schwarzenegger is a semi regular. The Sergeant Major of the US Army is a regular. Rick Astley is a semi regular. Verne Troyer was a regular before he died.

But they don't use it the same way.

Twitter allows you to soapbox on any current issue and communicate directly with people.

You could in theory do something similar through your own subreddit but then you'd need to manage it, it's not the same thing.

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Post by kgantchev »

sio8ohPi wrote: post #109
bombcar wrote: post #12

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They famously shut down the free meals.

That's wild. It's untaxed comp that minimizes the time employees need to spend thinking about food during the day. He's mandating employees come back to the office for long hours, but now they need to (at least) order and receive their own lunches and dinners? If he's trying to retain some sort of high-intensity hardcore ninja startup bullshit, I would think free food would be the last thing cut. Or is he planning fo…

> That's wild. It's untaxed comp...

So tax evasion?

Re: Twitter Office Supply Auction

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Post by Consultant32452 »

sio8ohPi wrote: post #109
bombcar wrote: post #12

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They famously shut down the free meals.

That's wild. It's untaxed comp that minimizes the time employees need to spend thinking about food during the day. He's mandating employees come back to the office for long hours, but now they need to (at least) order and receive their own lunches and dinners? If he's trying to retain some sort of high-intensity hardcore ninja startup bullshit, I would think free food would be the last thing cut. Or is he planning fo…

Musk said publicly the free food was rarely eaten. They had more people cooking breakfast than eating it. That’s probably exaggeration, but it’s probably true that it had little utilization.

Re: Twitter Office Supply Auction

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Post by Consultant32452 »

tkiolp4 wrote: post #23
bhouston wrote: post #9

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If you have less offices you have less needs for corporate branding. If you were to consolidate all branding into the remaining offices it would take up too much space. You can not be sentimental about this stuff.

If there is only one thing business and companies should be sentimental about is about their origins. No room for sentimental stuff when doing anything else. Twitter is employing humans and the end of the day, not robots.

To be fair, Twitter is also employing a lot of robots.

Re: Twitter Office Supply Auction

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Post by lupire »

tkiolp4 wrote: post #23
bhouston wrote: post #9

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If you have less offices you have less needs for corporate branding. If you were to consolidate all branding into the remaining offices it would take up too much space. You can not be sentimental about this stuff.

If there is only one thing business and companies should be sentimental about is about their origins. No room for sentimental stuff when doing anything else. Twitter is employing humans and the end of the day, not robots.

The new owner is opposed to Twitter's origins, and his goal is to employ robots, not humans.
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