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Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by tommiegannert »

ryandrake wrote: post #48

Great job figuring out it was a scam but honestly, it’s crazy that these things still work on anyone all the way in 2022. You would think that by now every human being that walks the earth would know that whenever someone you don’t know sends you “money” and then requests you send it back (or to another party) in a different form, it’s always a scam. There should be some ceremony whenever someone turns 16 or somethin…

That people buy gift cards at all boggles my mind. You're buying a currency with less versatility (and hence value) for 1:1. Where I live, we have perfectly fine government-issued bills to gift if that's your thing. Somehow, that's considered a bad present? Because it's lazy? Because it doesn't show your opinion on clothes brands? I don't get it, from the consumer's perspective. To the shop/mall it's a clear winner, since you know some receivers won't use their cards. It's a proper arbitrage to them.

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by wingerlang »

nigamanth wrote: post #17
bagels wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Definitely a cause for alarm for someone that supposedly works in software in Florida, but there are professionals who don't have English as their first language.

Well, yeah there are professionals who don't have English as their first language, but I mean making a mistake in the most basic punctuation marks? Sure if he doesn't know the difference between "it's" and "its" then it's fine, but if he doesn't know how to properly use commas in a sentence then one must question his professionality. Additionally, there was no way he couldn't have had access to automation.com

I don't see how professionalism is tied to English proficiency. I've spent my whole career with ESL people (me included) and it doesn't really make sense to me.

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by aerovistae »

defen wrote: post #109
aerovistae wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would he send them money though? Like what was the given reason why he would be sending them anything?

"Ok Bob, you're hired. Normally we'd send you a computer and all the other equipment you need, but our vendor communications are all fucked up. So we're going to send you the check we would have sent them , you deposit it, then you order the equipment from them. Plus that way your name is officially on the purchase and you own the equipment after 15 weeks! Why don't we just send the check to the vendor? What, are you…

Ah that is truly a very obvious scam

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by aerovistae »

jpoesen wrote: post #101
aerovistae wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would he send them money though? Like what was the given reason why he would be sending them anything?

My friend, if you have time to ask for a tl;dr and ask follow-up questions, you have time to read the original post. Off you go.

Definitely took less time to type these few sentences than it would take to read that wall of text

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by biztos »

zorrolovsky wrote: post #103
ryandrake wrote: post #48

Great job figuring out it was a scam but honestly, it’s crazy that these things still work on anyone all the way in 2022. You would think that by now every human being that walks the earth would know that whenever someone you don’t know sends you “money” and then requests you send it back (or to another party) in a different form, it’s always a scam. There should be some ceremony whenever someone turns 16 or somethin…

This post seem to blame victims for the problem, and that is not fair. People can be in dark places mentally, struggle with disease, family issues, etc. Not everybody is mentally sharp 100% of the time to identify a scam attack and fight it back. The problem is not victims, the problem is scammers. There should be better mechanisms to quickly clamp down on them. In this case, it would be really good if there was a me…

I consider myself pretty quick to detect scams, having worked in cybersecurity, though probably no quicker than the average HN commenter. And yet 15 years ago I fell for the “sell products that are no longer available” scam.

There was a keyboard I really wanted but it was no longer being made. However, I found an online shop that had them in stock! I ordered, paid, got my confirmation, and waited about two weeks before complaining that it hadn’t shipped.

Ended up with some dude from the usual geography for this stuff, yelling at me and threatening me over the phone. At which point I realized it was all fake, told him where to stick it and hung up. It was only $100 or so and I was lucky they didn’t do anything creative with my credit card.

The point being, there are lots of circumstances that can make you let your guard down. Thinking you’re too smart to be at risk is probably not the safest position to take.

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by freetanga »

j33zusjuice wrote: post #88
ketzo wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, but approximately no business or government agency in the world ACCEPTS gift cards as payment.

The companies that issue them accept them.

Redeem them. Which is a narrower definition than “accepts as payment”

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by maximus-decimus »

nigamanth wrote: post #17
bagels wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Definitely a cause for alarm for someone that supposedly works in software in Florida, but there are professionals who don't have English as their first language.

Well, yeah there are professionals who don't have English as their first language, but I mean making a mistake in the most basic punctuation marks? Sure if he doesn't know the difference between "it's" and "its" then it's fine, but if he doesn't know how to properly use commas in a sentence then one must question his professionality. Additionally, there was no way he couldn't have had access to automation.com

As a non native speaker, I find it wild you think it's vs its is harder than punctuation. If somebody can't tell its from it's then they don't know what a verb is, which seems like a much more basic concept than punctuation to me.

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by honkler »

biztos wrote: post #115
zorrolovsky wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This post seem to blame victims for the problem, and that is not fair. People can be in dark places mentally, struggle with disease, family issues, etc. Not everybody is mentally sharp 100% of the time to identify a scam attack and fight it back. The problem is not victims, the problem is scammers. There should be better mechanisms to quickly clamp down on them. In this case, it would be really good if there was a me…

I consider myself pretty quick to detect scams, having worked in cybersecurity, though probably no quicker than the average HN commenter. And yet 15 years ago I fell for the “sell products that are no longer available” scam. There was a keyboard I really wanted but it was no longer being made. However, I found an online shop that had them in stock! I ordered, paid, got my confirmation, and waited about two weeks befo…

usual geography being india?

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by lultimouomo »

jjav wrote: post #71
sharkjacobs wrote: post #4

Are cheques even used for anything except for fraud anymore? Open call: Anyone out there paying or receiving payment with cheque in the last ten years?

> Are cheques even used for anything except for fraud anymore? Based on the cheques spelling I guess you're not in the US. Checks are very common here, I write them every month. In theory I could pay my water bill by credit card but their payment portal is so randomly broken that I save a ton of headache by writing a check and dropping it off at their payment box. My office lease only takes checks. Various other rent…

> When receiving one, in most places it can be deposited by just taking a photo, doesn't get easier than that. Most importantly, I don't get to be another victim of the "$PAYMENT_PROCESSOR froze my account and stole my money", whether it be paypal or any of the other ones.

If only there was a way for people to transfer money from their bank to someone else's bank... They could call it "bank transfer", and it would solve all these problems!

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by donkeydoug »

tasty_freeze wrote: post #55

Sadly, my daughter got scammed earlier this year. She is a recent college grad from a liberal arts school, and had been working six months doing retail work after graduation. Looking to make use of her degree, she was excited to get a job offer doing remote work as an office coordinator. She has a dog so working from home was a plus, and $25/hr instead of $16/hr doing retail was a big raise. She not only lost $3000 f…

I hope you let her know that she shouldn't be ashamed. These people take advantage of the good nature of others. It's also something they work at every day to improve their ability to take advantage of others, fix the mistakes that caused the last con to fail so that the next person will be at an even greater disadvantage. Learn the lesson & move on.
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