Facebook tracking is illegal in Europe

Post by theptip » Fri, Dec 09, 2022, 4:47 PM UTC

ls15 wrote: post #90

wackget wrote: post #84

> The EU decision will not have direct consequences for users, unfortunately, as it can be appealed to. Such an appeal would lead to a lengthy judicial process. So companies can flout the law for years, making massive profits, and continue to do so for as long as they can string along an appeal process? Seems like a pretty nice loophole.

Certain companies can

Post by p0pcult » Fri, Dec 09, 2022, 4:47 PM UTC

izzydata wrote: post #105

p0pcult wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would it wreck the legal framework to institute a concept wherein you can appeal, but if, on appeal, the lower court ruling holds, the punishment/fine is retroactive to the date of the lower court ruling? I.e., make it so that there is no free pass to continuing presumptively illegal activity.

Wouldn't it be that way already? The punishment even for the whole extended period of time is still often nothing to big tech. Punishments need to be tailored to those being punished to cause equal effect.

Post by jqpabc123 » Fri, Dec 09, 2022, 4:50 PM UTC

riskable wrote: post #103

spritefs wrote: post #65

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The car location thing is an actual issue that needs to be legislated away. Companies like bmw do this with irremovable sim cards and location data Why the fuck does my car need an internet connection when nav isn't being used? Why are the sim cards irremovable? Why is an internet connection necessary for heated seats? Principle of least privilege. These automakers can fuck off out of the data brokering industry with…

> Why the fuck does my car need an internet connection when nav isn't being used? So they can update the firmware to fix (recall) issues instead of having you go into the dealership and pay someone to hook up a device to your car to do the same. This counts as 1-4 hours of labor--depending on how much of a pain in the ass it is to access all the car's ECUs/MCUs/systems. I think it's important to note that the car onl…

Post by mpweiher » Fri, Dec 09, 2022, 4:51 PM UTC

izzydata wrote: post #105

p0pcult wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would it wreck the legal framework to institute a concept wherein you can appeal, but if, on appeal, the lower court ruling holds, the punishment/fine is retroactive to the date of the lower court ruling? I.e., make it so that there is no free pass to continuing presumptively illegal activity.

Wouldn't it be that way already? The punishment even for the whole extended period of time is still often nothing to big tech. Punishments need to be tailored to those being punished to cause equal effect.

Post by sofixa » Fri, Dec 09, 2022, 4:55 PM UTC

hedora wrote: post #59

Cool. So, how does this impact consumers that never used Facebook, but that have shadow profiles for social network inference and ad tracking? Presumably, since Facebook has no way to contact those people, they will just shut down the no-logged-in-but-tracked half of their business in Europe? (If you don't know what I mean by shadow profile: When you first create a Facebook account, it helpfully produces a prepopulat…