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Out of interest, how are you using it to write tests? Do you just write "make a test for functionX" or something? (Don't have much experience with it)
Yes, if you show an example, or even have the test file open, it will make the other tests for you.
"Our diagnosis is that individual developers do not pay for tools. Their manager might, but engineering managers only want to pay for discrete new capabilities, i.e. making their developers 18% faster when writing code did not resonate strongly enough." I never used Kite, but I've tried Github Copilot twice, and found it marginal at best (and distracting at worst - which is why I turned it off both times). If Kite wa…
Many people I know find copilot extremely helpful. I think tools like it are about to become extremely important to the productivity of everyday developers. I seriously doubt it will take $100M to develop. The company Kite might have needed $100M to get there, but I bet you a few smart people working evenings in their garages can get there too.
Also the "nobody pays for dev tools" line is pretty obviously a weak excuse. Github is a developer tool that was worth $7B+. The truth was they just didn't provide _enough_ value to get people to pay for it. That's clearly true, and goes along with their idea that they were too early. Not that the problem is impossible.
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Loads of devs I’ve spoken to, from junior to principal level, absolutely love Github Copilot though. Don’t know who is paying it for them, nor if Kite was significantly worse, but I think that at least Copilot has a brilliant future ahead of it.
I _love_ Copilot but the only reason I use it is because I qualify under their open source developers program, I just can't justify paying $10/month for it.
I'm confused. "we were 10+ years too early to market, i.e. the tech is not ready yet." "Our diagnosis is that individual developers do not pay for tools." "We built the most-advanced AI for helping developers, but it fell short of the 10× improvement required to break through because today’s state of the art for ML on code is not good enough." Sounds like you know why people didn't pay for it. If it truly did make pe…
I see CoPilot all around me and it's generally well regarded and pretty widely adopted given how new it is.
Is there any data for this statement you can share?
(Thanks for working on kite and good luck!)
It failed because they did it exactly in reverse of how it should have been done. First they assembled the team, then they outlined the product then marketing and then only then they realized nobody would pay for that. You're supposed to first sell your product and then build it! I wonder whether anyone raised this issue in the early stage...
Sure, your people were great but they didn't innovate enough to make an attractive product (granted, AI code autocompletion is hard - I doubt we'll get something I'd be happy to pay before we reach GAI and we'll be all out of a job by then).
Oh and the "It's not the tech fault which is amazing, it's just a sales pipeline issue!"
Look, I understand caring about your employees and I said the same BS when my company failed trying to shift all the blame on me and not on my team. When you are in a startup it's everyone's job to say "hey, btw, what we want to do will suck because the tech is not there".
If you see something raise it and try to pivot, or you'll be out of a job with worthless grades.ß in
Maybe you could have cut your losses earlier on.
> Our diagnosis is that individual developers do not pay for tools. Throwing salt on the wound here but that’s just false. I mean, there’s copilot and it’s alternative that I can’t think of the name right now. more broadly there’s Jet brains ides, visual studio, Productivity apps, etc. look at product hunt or appsumo or popular show hns. Devs pay for tools, just not Kite. Edit: I should clarify, enough devs pay for t…
You think copilot is self-sustaining/profitable?
https://www.ciodive.com/news/github-copilot-microsoft-softwa...