Twitter at 1am on a Friday • Hacker News Board

Re: Twitter at 1am on a Friday

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Post by throw_m239339 » Sun, Nov 20, 2022, 4:46 AM UTC

toomuchtodo wrote: post #7

memish wrote: post #4

Er. How many of them are H-1Bs?

Per US. Citizenship and Immigration Services, around 300 employees at Twitter are working under the H-1B visa. My note: I am aware of someone at Meta attempting to reach out to these folks to interview for offers to transfer their visas. Very kind of folks willing to do so. Source: https://www.uscis.gov/tools/reports-and-studies/h-1b-employe...

> I am aware of someone at Meta attempting to reach out to these folks to interview for offers to transfer their visas. Very kind of folks willing to do so.

Meta is firing 11K people and freezing hiring right now.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/09/meta-to-lay-off-more-than-11...

Twitter will bounce back. For the people who are staying, this is a giant career opportunity to get a good executive job as the result. I'd stay in a heartbeat, even if it means spending one terrible year or two there.

Re: Twitter at 1am on a Friday

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Post by jsnell » Sun, Nov 20, 2022, 4:52 AM UTC

bogomipz wrote: post #64

jsnell wrote: post #11

It's pretty amazing when you think about it. Even given Musk's erratic behavior in the previous weeks, it would have been hard to predict something like this. At a short notice summon the handful of engineers who survived the purges to the office at 2pm on a Friday and to bring 10 screenshots of code they've written "for review". With that implicit threat, have them wait until 6pm. Then keep them around until 1am to…

>"At a short notice summon the handful of engineers who survived the purges to the office at 2pm on a Friday and to bring 10 screenshots of code they've written "for review". I wasn't able to read many of the collapsed comments since I don't have a teamblind account. Is that actually the context of this picture then?

Yes.

https://twitter.com/ZoeSchiffer/status/1593649356661436417

Re: Twitter at 1am on a Friday

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Post by wskish » Sun, Nov 20, 2022, 4:53 AM UTC

mhh__ wrote: post #90

wskish wrote: post #57

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I see that whiteboard as a mechanism to help build a shared mental model for all assembled. Everyone there has seen some previous unknown revision of architectural diagrams, and has their own partial model of the system. Due to the urgency at hand, they all need to have a crisp shared model of the important parts, down to the naming of things.

If you need a shared mental model diagram at the 1am pseudo-crunch-a-thon then you're doing something wrong. Identifying what you want to fix should be written down but the structure of the app should not be what is being discussed at 1am

I agree with you in ideal circumstances.

Re: Twitter at 1am on a Friday

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Post by raydev » Sun, Nov 20, 2022, 4:58 AM UTC

big_red wrote: post #95

x128 wrote: post #45

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Oof. That boot.

He’s only the most successful entrepreneur alive. But sure visa holders need their beauty sleep. Seriously you can’t stay up to 1am to have the company of the worlds richest person? What an opportunity to learn. This thread is totally nuts

> What an opportunity to learn

I suspect you've never been around Musk or people of Musk's class. What could you possibly learn that would materially improve anything in your life other than "you get to keep your job (for now)"? Or is it just curiosity you want to satisfy?

Re: Twitter at 1am on a Friday

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Post by wskish » Sun, Nov 20, 2022, 4:59 AM UTC

MiguelX413 wrote: post #107

wskish wrote: post #50

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> so that he can create the American Weechat, or whatever he's got in mind. What if what he has in mind is attempting to undo the negative effects that social networks have had on our society and democracy and instead attempt to rebuild this particular network in a way that can have a positive effect on society? It seems like that is a technological possibility and also something he could plausibly be interested in.

It's still centralized, proprietary, and going to have the harmful business model of advertising, no?

Of all those, "advertising" is the only fundamentally evil one, and he is chipping away at that one.

Re: Twitter at 1am on a Friday

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Post by _yb2s » Sun, Nov 20, 2022, 4:59 AM UTC

kcplate wrote: post #31

sys_64738 wrote: post #17

Some people have families and a life outside of work. We sure as heck ain't staying until 1am for anybody.

I have a family and a life outside of work, and I can’t count how many all nighters I have pulled in 35+ years of my career. Sometimes you need to do them. Of course I was raised in a generation that believed it was in our best interest that our company’s were successful…

I used to love all nighters but as a single dad of a young child, either I leave for school pickup or the police pick me up. If an employer did this to me, I’d be out of a job, and they’d be looking to hire someone else, that will likely cost them more and deliver less…

Re: Twitter at 1am on a Friday

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Post by chrisseaton » Sun, Nov 20, 2022, 5:03 AM UTC

octopolus wrote: post #88

chrisseaton wrote: post #77

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> Who cares if you’re redundant? People need money to eat.

then get a job?

They have a job. Redundancy is taking their job away. There's a recession.

Re: Twitter at 1am on a Friday

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Post by _yb2s » Sun, Nov 20, 2022, 5:04 AM UTC

mike503 wrote: post #18

As the comment says, it would be interesting to interact with the richest person on earth. Short of that, I have no idea why anyone would think it's fun or anything to be in that atmosphere. He could change direction on a whim and make you redundant in a second.

If you want to know why the people look like they’re having a fun time, watch The Death of Stalin

Re: Twitter at 1am on a Friday

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Post by yosame » Sun, Nov 20, 2022, 5:06 AM UTC

wskish wrote: post #106

pasttense01 wrote: post #66

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Elon believes in "free speech" and these unmoderated free speech networks rapidly become filled with toxic garbage.

historically, yes; but might that be a function of both the platform incentives (advertising, engagement) and poor technology?

Well twitter is in more debt than ever, so it might be even more beholden to advertisers now. And as for the technology, they just fired most of their engineers...

Re: Twitter at 1am on a Friday

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Post by capitalsigma » Sun, Nov 20, 2022, 5:07 AM UTC

public_defender wrote: post #59

philosopher1234 wrote: post #51

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We are born dependent and vulnerable. If our parents are cruel we contort ourselves to love them anyways, so that they will keep feeding us. Then we go into the world and find we are still contorted. The world seems to be full of these people. It’s hard to see a way out.

Not sure why you're being downvoted. "Just resist psychopaths" is an ableist, reductive paradigm. Of course many people can't just resist. People have families, care responsibilities, and many are indeed conditioned to accommodate.

Would you say that it's also ableist to ask people to "just resist fascism"? After all, many people are indeed conditioned to accommodate fascism. Or pick another -ism you prefer.