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Why is the terminal input so weird?

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Re: Why is the terminal input so weird?

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> The business plan is to create collaborative and cloud-based features that businesses will be willing to pay for. You know what, that is fair. I know a lot of folks take an issue with software that is monetized and many are jumpy about software that might rugpull them and lock certain features behind a paywall some time down the line, or look into more aggressive forms of monetization, but at the same time a lot of…

I need AI in my terminal like Xerox needed intelligent character compression that randomly alters digits in copies.

Re: Why is the terminal input so weird?

#112
post #94

Dark pattern #1: Allowing the user to download the app and only then requiring the user to login/signup. This is because you know very well almost nobody will bother to try your terminal if you make it clear you require a login up front. But if they've gone to the trouble of downloading it, dragging it to Applications and running it, then maybe they'll go all the way. Dark pattern #2: On sign-up, you "agree to our te…

I am glad I checked back here before I clicked "Open" when asked

      “Warp.app” is an app downloaded from the Internet. Are you sure you want to open it? 
I had a feeling I should check first .. spidey senses were good...

Re: Why is the terminal input so weird?

#113
post #94

Dark pattern #1: Allowing the user to download the app and only then requiring the user to login/signup. This is because you know very well almost nobody will bother to try your terminal if you make it clear you require a login up front. But if they've gone to the trouble of downloading it, dragging it to Applications and running it, then maybe they'll go all the way. Dark pattern #2: On sign-up, you "agree to our te…

I am glad I checked back here before I clicked "Open" when asked “Warp.app” is an app downloaded from the Internet. Are you sure you want to open it? I had a feeling I should check first .. spidey senses were good...

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Re: Why is the terminal input so weird?

#114
post #94

Dark pattern #1: Allowing the user to download the app and only then requiring the user to login/signup. This is because you know very well almost nobody will bother to try your terminal if you make it clear you require a login up front. But if they've gone to the trouble of downloading it, dragging it to Applications and running it, then maybe they'll go all the way. Dark pattern #2: On sign-up, you "agree to our te…

I wish I could upvote this 100 times...

Re: Why is the terminal input so weird?

#116

The developers seem to be proud that their shell is “Rust-based”, they write it several times on the main page. But why would I care what a closed-source application is made with? Sorry if it’s blunt, but I just don’t get it.

I think it's signaling that it's probably modern, fast, and that the authors care about correctness. I think the customer has to have bought-in to the Rust hype for that to work, but since it's a developer tool, I can see how it might attract some.

Re: Why is the terminal input so weird?

#117

Let me mention MPW - The Macintosh Programmer's Workshop for classic MacOS. The shell was a text editor, just like the text editor for editing code. When you hit enter (or command-return) it evaluated the current line or selection. Command results were included in the document. (This was strictly a dumb terminal so there were no vt100 escape codes or such to mess up the display) If you were confused about the command…

Also -- BBEdit's "Shell Worksheet" is the MPW Workshop for today. I use it for so much every day. No commando, though, that was so great.

Re: Why is the terminal input so weird?

#119
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As much as I'd like to encourage the rethinking of input methods, any terminal with a "Pricing" page is an instant nope from me. My current terminal is Open Source and while it's not perfect, it's also Free. That matters more to me than mouse input or IDE autosuggestions. If you're going to treat Linux users as a second-class citizen and charge for corporate usage, who are you hoping your target audience will be? Fra…

The app is 100% free for any and all individuals. The business plan is to create collaborative and cloud-based features that businesses will be willing to pay for. Please check out our pricing page to learn more. Please note that our business model is not about collecting and monetizing any of your personal data. https://www.warp.dev/privacy

>Please note that our business model is not about collecting and monetizing any of your personal data

Doesn't matter, any kind of connection to the mothership or telemetry is a no-no...

You could have corporate edition, with telemetry and everything or a personal one.

But no self-respecting dev is gonna use a terminal calling home for personal use...

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