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Re: KDE beats macOS

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Post by irusensei »

easygenes wrote: post #84
irusensei wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Correct me here but Server and Enterprise/LTS have a proper evaluation period (180 day?) that upon expiration shutdowns the machine after 1 hour of use.

It seems you're right and I was mistaken. https://digitalitskills.com/how-to-stop-windows-server-auto-...

I always wondered if some really detailed and maintained script or ansible book could make the expiration date a minor issue. Just install it again assuming there is no hardware id of sorts involved in the trial activation.

Re: KDE beats macOS

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Post by hbn »

tyfon wrote: post #96
doix wrote: post #6

Intuitiveness is just what you are used to at this point. If you've been in the Apple ecosystem your whole life, then their UX seems intuitive to you. If you haven't, then it makes absolutely no sense. I first touched an apple device in my 20's, there was nothing intuitive about it. I couldn't do anything and was extremely frustrated. I'm sure the same applies to apple folks trying gnome/KDE/windows. People are getti…

I actually switched to an iphone around 2.5 years ago since teams wouldn't run properly on my old android and the offerings from my company instead of iphone (huawei and samsung) didn't really appeal to me. Now 2.5 years later I switched back due to not being able to make friends with the apple UI despite trying for that long. It feels so constrained and inconsistent to me. The pixel phone I got now is a dream in com…

> Keepass didn't really integrate with ios, in android I can select it as my own "autofill provider"

I've been using an iPhone for almost exactly 2 years now and I didn't realized until like a month ago that you can change the default password manager. Unless Keepass just didn't tap into the API (which would surprise me), but Enpass works like a charm and I felt like an idiot for manually going into the app and copy-pasting this whole time.

Settings > Passwords > Password Options

And then set "allow filling from" to your password manager

Re: KDE beats macOS

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Post by lampe3 »

criddell wrote: post #55
lampe3 wrote: post #20

To be honest I stopped caring what OS I'm running as long as it is not windows. I have a terminal open 99% of the time and I almost never open finder or Gnome Files. pacman or brew? really I don't care. Both install what I want with one command. VS Code is basically the same on every system. Gnome/KDE/MacOS all of them have there pros and cons. Right now what wins for me is the apple silicon. I can develop stuff with…

Even Windows is the right choice for lots of people. For example, if you want to play some new game, chances are it will work best on a Windows machine with a monster GPU. I agree with you though - all of the modern OS’s are mostly good enough and have been for quite a while. It feels like a solved problem. The person who wrote the comment on Reddit may love KDE, but that doesn’t really matter if they need to run XCo…

I still have a razer blade for gaming but i mostly use my nintendo switch these days. Mostly playing "DorfRomantik" and "Mini Motorways"

As a side project I work on a flutter mobile app.

So one of the best features of MacOS is how easy you can simulate an Iphone compared to android. I wanted to setup a Pixel 6 with google play services and I for the love of god could not figure out how to do that. So I needed to go with the Pixel 4.

Re: KDE beats macOS

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Post by zamalek »

IshKebab wrote: post #78

I mean, sure some of those things are crap in MacOS. Some he is mistaken about or are super niche. He does have some valid points but you can't take a few annoyances and say "KDE beats macOS". I could easily find the same number of annoyances in KDE. Probably many more. He's just made peace with them. > Impossible to create a dotfile from Finder (only terminal) Yeah most people don't need this ever. If you're making…

> True but try installing an app that isn't in "the store" (which one again?) on Linux

Typically Discover or Gnome Software. They integrate with several package managers (Apt, pacman, etc.). Discover does even more; being a single stop not only for apps, but also DE extensions.

There is no paid app store, if that is what you meant, except on ElementaryOS.

Some apps are still download-and-run or download-and-install. MacOS is strictly superior in the former case, as you can install apps by dragging them to the Applications folder (in Gnome and KDE you need to 'find' .local/share/applications). Downloading and running does generally work, unless you're on something without a standard FHS (e.g. NixOS).

Overall, MacOS is strictly worse (as a development machine) than Linux in this regard: it has no native package manager.

Containers are also still a fucking nightmare, even with the heroic efforts of the people behind Colima/Lima.

Re: KDE beats macOS

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Post by P5fRxh5kUvp2th »

easygenes wrote: post #47
KaiserPro wrote: post #31

> KDE beats macOS hands down "If you've been using KDE for years and are new to OSX." should be appended to the headline. I'm not going to defend OSX here. It is as obtuse as any other GUI system. My dad was always a KDE fan, I suspect because he had CDE/CDE like GUIs for a long time, and muscle memory is hard to overcome. I never really liked it, however for the longest time it did have more features and polish than…

I have to say that WSL is an absolute nightmare. I just cannot stand it. Not only that, but Microsoft has deeply embedded Hyper-V into Windows, to the point that you can't run another hypervisor. I tried to get away from WSL by using VMware Workstation and found that Hyper-V was still under the hood and bogging down the system. All the documents I could find, including recent official ones from Microsoft, on removing…

That would explain why my recent-ish attempt at running an ubuntu VM in windows was so bad. I was kind of shocked, how could performance have degraded so much over the years?

10 years ago I was running that workload just fine, but today, on a ryzen 5950, it's slow?

I wonder if Hyper-V is the culprit.

Re: KDE beats macOS

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Post by koonsolo »

doix wrote: post #6

Intuitiveness is just what you are used to at this point. If you've been in the Apple ecosystem your whole life, then their UX seems intuitive to you. If you haven't, then it makes absolutely no sense. I first touched an apple device in my 20's, there was nothing intuitive about it. I couldn't do anything and was extremely frustrated. I'm sure the same applies to apple folks trying gnome/KDE/windows. People are getti…

I don't agree. I have an Android, and when I go to a product page on the app store, there is this huge "install" button clearly in a different color. Very good UX.

I remember receiving a company iPhone years ago. I went to an app store product page, and couldn't find any install button. Totally confused I looked for some menu options or whatever. Turned out you had to click the "free" text behind the app title. Not a button at all, not clear at all. That is just bad UX.

Re: KDE beats macOS

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Post by chii »

rhaway84773 wrote: post #28
doix wrote: post #6

Intuitiveness is just what you are used to at this point. If you've been in the Apple ecosystem your whole life, then their UX seems intuitive to you. If you haven't, then it makes absolutely no sense. I first touched an apple device in my 20's, there was nothing intuitive about it. I couldn't do anything and was extremely frustrated. I'm sure the same applies to apple folks trying gnome/KDE/windows. People are getti…

MacOS is interesting in that I know regular users who have used it for over a decade who still don’t grasp some of its basics. For example, the post actually makes a mistake when mentioning macOS doesn’t have Alt+TAB window switching. It does. You just have to do Alt+’. That being said, even though the OP is wrong, there’s a massive kernel of truth in that the majority of ordinary Mac users are unaware of this. Anoth…

and the thing is, the alt-tab is not even really a native idea for macs - Exposé is the way to switch windows (which, for me is the 4 finger swipe up on the touch pad - but some people can choose to use hot corner on the screen, or the dedicated hardware button).

Re: KDE beats macOS

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Post by plgonzalezrx8 »

P5fRxh5kUvp2th wrote: post #115
easygenes wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have to say that WSL is an absolute nightmare. I just cannot stand it. Not only that, but Microsoft has deeply embedded Hyper-V into Windows, to the point that you can't run another hypervisor. I tried to get away from WSL by using VMware Workstation and found that Hyper-V was still under the hood and bogging down the system. All the documents I could find, including recent official ones from Microsoft, on removing…

That would explain why my recent-ish attempt at running an ubuntu VM in windows was so bad. I was kind of shocked, how could performance have degraded so much over the years? 10 years ago I was running that workload just fine, but today, on a ryzen 5950, it's slow? I wonder if Hyper-V is the culprit.

Probably. Also make sure the proper configuration are set in VMWare, more specifically, the Virtualize AMD-V/RVI option. If it gives you an error when enabling that, MS Hyper-V is most likely the culprit.

Re: KDE beats macOS

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Post by kennend3 »

lucideer wrote: post #52
doix wrote: post #6

Intuitiveness is just what you are used to at this point. If you've been in the Apple ecosystem your whole life, then their UX seems intuitive to you. If you haven't, then it makes absolutely no sense. I first touched an apple device in my 20's, there was nothing intuitive about it. I couldn't do anything and was extremely frustrated. I'm sure the same applies to apple folks trying gnome/KDE/windows. People are getti…

Another hard disagree here. My daily driver personal laptop is a macbook, it's the best machine I've ever owned & my next laptop will most likely be a macbook. My work machine is also a macbook. But they are not intuitive nor highly "usable". After many years going through various osx/macOS transitions, it's an OS with objectively bad ux in many ways. That's not to say it's bad software. Apart from the hardware of my…

Just wait until your very expensive laptop no longer receives OS updates.

Not because it cant run them, but because apple doesn't want you using that machine anymore.

Legacy opencore patcher is proof that these machines can run the OS but the installer blocks it.

For frame of reference, I moved from using linux exclusively to MacOS around 2 years ago. I'd avoid buying real mac hardware over this because it is expensive planned obsolescence. I have a laptop running Ubuntu which is like 8 years old and still runs the most recent version just fine. How long will your mac continue to receive updates?

PS - Question for you. Why are there so many threads on the net on how to install linux on a macbook?

Re: KDE beats macOS

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Post by thomassmith65 »

I hate the Mac*, but even so, nothing on that list of complaints is valid.

Here's an example of what I consider a valid complaint: the placement of a Mac's app menubar at the top of the screen, instead of the top of an application window, is wrong. Two pieces of evidence: (1) it leads to confusion with multiple monitors and (2) new Mac users invariably have trouble remembering to look for app-specific choices at the top of the screen. Mac-users rebut this by claiming that Apple's design adheres better to Fitt's law, but time has proven the disadvantages outweigh that. If one chooses a window metaphor for an app, the app's controls should appear in close proximity to that window.

In contrast, the list items here are mostly just wrong ("Lack of native clipboard") or superficial ("Can't create new file from Finder context menu").

*though imo Mac OS was lovable as recently as a decade ago.

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