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Re: I plan to leave tech to pursue art

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Post by Borrible »

aiappreciator wrote: post #13
rhacker wrote: post #10

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AI won't eat lunch, but it may crowd the space with more people getting paid less. A marketing person can't sit in front of Stable Diffusion and work it towards the campaign they want. They still need an art department that can iterate and make it match the campaign. The artist may very well be sitting in front of some iteration of stable diffusion/imagen/dalle but they still need to discern between AI generated outp…

Why do you think an 'art department' is still needed? The only reason why in-house art departments are needed, is because previously its hard to communicate 'exactly what you want' to an artist, hence in-housing to reduce communication friction. In the future, the marketing guy, can just create a draft/visual guide through AI, and send it to some outsourced artist to refine. The outsourced artist can be from any coun…

I heard a talk last week from a co-founder of a social first agency who no longer hires storyboarders because it's cheaper and faster for his agency to make them themselves with freely available generative AI.

They also use AI tools for creative direction and text generation.

Re: I plan to leave tech to pursue art

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Post by Borrible »

agumonkey wrote: post #101

I had a tiny dream the other day, to leave for a silent retreat in a monastery and study cosmology.. something about the scale and timelessness of it was appealing to my soul

You could ask here:

https://www.pas.va/en/taglist.disciplines.astronomy.html

Compared to the universe, their monastery is tiny. And as time goes by, it gets tinier and tinier.

Re: I plan to leave tech to pursue art

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Post by tasuki »

tjr225 wrote: post #52
JKCalhoun wrote: post #26

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I stood at a fork in the road, so to speak, when I was kicked out of the house and had to decide whether to pursue art or tech (I enjoyed both). It was clear to me tech would pay the bills — the art I could do in my spare time. Retired (am I?) now, I can do all the art I want.

The problem is that by the time you are retired you are most likely so unplugged from the cultural zeitgeist that fuels art that you can’t possibly be good at it. You can’t possibly create anything meaningful that would speak to people who really consume art, because those people are young. They’re a few examples of outsiders who buck this trend but it’s a little presumptuous to think you’re as good as them. So now y…

> You can’t possibly create anything meaningful that would speak to people who really consume art, because those people are young.

Why do you think "people who really consume art" are young? This seems completely false to me.

Re: I plan to leave tech to pursue art

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Post by robertlagrant »

tjr225 wrote: post #92
EdwardDiego wrote: post #89

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So if you have no idea what art is because you're too old, why do you presume you can gate-keep art for others? > I’ll just assume you’re offended because you’re old. I very strongly suspect I'm younger than you. And I've no personal interest in artistic pursuits, to be explicit. The only reason I took offence was that you were, in short, acting offensively. Even shorter - you were an asshole. In the longer - you wer…

You’ve read too much into what I’ve said and taken too much offense. Text is hard so I don’t blame you. “retiring and doing art” is an absurdly simplistic path to point someone towards and it’s not helpful to anyone who wants to actually create anything at all. And it probably doesn’t work in most cases. “It’s what I’ve done!”

You seem to be aggressively pushing the idea that "doing art" means a very specific thing - i.e. influencing millions. Someone painting for their own pleasure is also art. And even if they never exhibited it, they are still creating things. Your definitions seem far too narrow.

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Post by kinleyd »

dinosaurdynasty wrote: post #50
kinleyd wrote: post #47

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It's a risk/reward thing. Some people go all in with their passion first, consequences be damned, and it pays off. Others, I think the larger portion, aren't so lucky. Conventional wisdom is to take the safe job first, and then go from there - the risk here is never getting out of that rut. It's a hard decision, but being really focused on defining and attaining what independence is for you, is the key to taking that…

Being in a rut is better than being homeless.

Without a shadow of a doubt.

Re: I plan to leave tech to pursue art

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Post by gatane »

eludwig wrote: post #4

The grass is always greener! :-D I smile because I left commercial art back in the 80's to become a software developer! More power to Laim and I hope it works out well for him, but I have my doubts. Working as a full-time (especially on-staff) artist answerable to an Art Director sucks!! Artists are not respected, paid terribly and just generally considered disposable. At least that's how it was in my day. Again, Lia…

Not so long time ago, there was this man who loved to make barbecues. At weekends, he loved cooking, preparing and eating the food with friends. He would talk about the best temperature, the best meat, salsas, and lots of other technical data.

One day, a butcher from a local store joined the barbecue: - Hey, you are pretty good! Would you like to leave your current job and work for our store? We have special discounts for workers, and the job is good.

The man thinked twice before answering...You are that man. Some choose Yes without hesitation. Others say No.

- No thanks, its just a hobby for me.

Re: I plan to leave tech to pursue art

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Post by 6stringmerc »

gatane wrote: post #118
eludwig wrote: post #4

The grass is always greener! :-D I smile because I left commercial art back in the 80's to become a software developer! More power to Laim and I hope it works out well for him, but I have my doubts. Working as a full-time (especially on-staff) artist answerable to an Art Director sucks!! Artists are not respected, paid terribly and just generally considered disposable. At least that's how it was in my day. Again, Lia…

Not so long time ago, there was this man who loved to make barbecues . At weekends, he loved cooking, preparing and eating the food with friends. He would talk about the best temperature, the best meat, salsas, and lots of other technical data. One day, a butcher from a local store joined the barbecue: - Hey, you are pretty good! Would you like to leave your current job and work for our store? We have special discoun…

Great example - this is why I stayed 100% in music. Even a fringe artist like Grimes claimed to have problems with her well respected label over creative issues. None of those problems for me.

Re: I plan to leave tech to pursue art

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Post by 6stringmerc »

kinleyd wrote: post #117
dinosaurdynasty wrote: post #50

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Being in a rut is better than being homeless.

Without a shadow of a doubt.

Also I have been able to pawn or sell extra guitars acquired when works was better. Art tools can retain some value.
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