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Re: Disney says it has more streaming customers than Netflix

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Post by MBCook »

hemloc_io wrote: post #11

Here's a question I've had and maybe someone from HN can answer it. The (movie) streaming wars have content as a differentiator in the market, but it doesn't seem like Spotify/Apple music is effected. Assuming both the RIAA and MPAA members both don't care about consumer complaints that much, why do record companies not start their own streaming services? I assume it's easier than making a movie streaming service, an…

History?

So this is a total guess but as far as I know radio stations have always played all music. As far as I know there’s never been Sony stations and EMI stations and such. Maybe with original programming like soaps and game shows long ago or talk shows more recently but never music.

On the other hand TV sort of started siloed. Maybe because of radio consolidation? But CBS had CBS stuff, NBC had NBC, etc. Cable kind of continued that (outside of syndication and reruns).

I just can’t imagine listening to a BMG station. I don’t have any clue what label(s) my favorite artists are on.

Re: Disney says it has more streaming customers than Netflix

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Post by Izkata »

brookst wrote: post #44
LarsDu88 wrote: post #22

Disney has decades of experience with content that the whole family can enjoy. Netflix has a decade of experience with...AWS With Netflix you get a mixed bag of Stranger Things + stuff that most folks expect to be dropped after 2 seasons. When Netflix pivoted into content, they needed to get creatives and passionate people in charge rather than the tech-world PMs they ended up putting in charge. Disney might not be p…

> When Netflix pivoted into content, they needed to get creatives and passionate people in charge rather than the tech-world PMs they ended up putting in charge. Very, very true. Disney's magic is their strength as a content brand. Not just their core products; with ESPN you know exactly what it's going to be, from live sports to documentaries. Netflix made an amazing pivot from physical to digital distribution, and…

> But they failed to pivot from digital distribution to content.

There is a niche that no one fills, that I'm hoping Netflix shifts into: "Popular series was canceled? Let's pick it up and give it a final season!"

They're doing it with Manifest right now. It was on NBC and canceled after 3 out of 5 planned seasons, and the creator was trying to figure out how he could finish the plot as a single movie, then Netflix bought it and gave him an entire 20 episodes to finish the plot - almost the entire two missing seasons. First half was just released a few days ago.

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Post by somewhat_drunk »

systemicdanna wrote: post #84
kypro wrote: post #75

I know it's not Disney / Netflix, but am I the only one surprised by how good and unappreciated Prime Video is? I find there's some good stuff on there and it's all bundled in with my Prime subscription so as a long-term Prime subscriber I feel like I basically get it for free. The Boys is amazing for example, probably the best superhero show I've ever watched. Amazon Music got a nice upgrade recently as well with mo…

I can’t name a single other great show from Prime. It’s just the Boys.

The Expanse.

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Post by foobazgt »

paul7986 wrote: post #67
PenguinCoder wrote: post #27

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I don't know how you compared using Disney+ to Netflix and came to the conclusion that it's less bloated. In my experience on a Roku, D+ is SLOW, it takes forever to do anything from loading up, just browsing, thumbnails populating, or actually starting a show.

Netflix is bloated with tons and tons content that does not already have a built in audience/rabid fanbase like Marvel, Star Wars, Pixar and Disney classic has. With Disney I click through and see lots of shows with well known characters with decades of familiarity (legacy characters/content). Netflix I click through and have no idea what 90% of the content is via clicking through. I personally have Never had any con…

Re: app issues, I've had HBO Max crash on me about 100x over the last year'ish - no exaggeration. This was across LG C1, Roku, PS4, Xbox Series X, and Android. It's improved substantially over the last couple of months, but it's still the most likely app to have problems. I would have cancelled a long time ago, but the content kept me hanging on. It looks like I'll be cancelling with the Discovery acquisition.

IME, Netflix still stands heads and shoulders above the rest in terms of UI quality, functionality, reliability, and speed. I've often thought that they should license out their stack. My ranking for apps (which I've used for at least six months), would be Netflix, Hulu, Apple TV, Disney+, Amazon Prime, and HBO Max, with Prime and Max often infuriatingly bad.

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Post by systemicdanna »

somewhat_drunk wrote: post #114
systemicdanna wrote: post #84

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I can’t name a single other great show from Prime. It’s just the Boys.

The Expanse.

I mean… they just bought it recently, the show is not really Prime’s accomplishment. Kudos to Amazon for letting the show film its final season though!

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Post by iamjackg »

homeland221 wrote: post #99
tomrod wrote: post #66

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Contrary opinion: Andor was great, Obi-wan was great, She-Hulk was brilliant and fantastic from the start, and others have been absolutely clever. Netflix's JJ, DD, LC, Defenders, were also great. Have you _watched_ recent Netflix content? It's truly abysmal.

If you have been Star Wars fan since 70s with detail knowledge, then Andor and Obi-Wan were sub-par at best. She-Hulk is quite terrible if you know the comics background. As new age of PC-ness with emphasis on wokeness these days, it is quite good especially the 4th wall breakout in last episode. Fear Street, Escape, Koreans and anime such as Castlevania on Netlifx are very refreshing as compare to westernized-only c…

For the record, while Netflix really pushed the anime angle, Castlevania is actually an entirely American production. It was written, directed, and animated entirely in America by Americans.

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Post by philliphaydon »

gamblor956 wrote: post #106
Retric wrote: post #101

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What on earth did you like about Andre, Obi-wan, and especially She-Hulk? I didn’t even get through the first episode of any of them. So I guess they might pick up but I don’t have much hope. Not that I watched much Netflix original content either, but it’s at least got some variety to it.

Andor is an amazing adult show about the causes that drive people to take up arms against their government. It's not a traditional Star Wars show. She Hulk is an engaging legal comedy in the style of Ally McBeal, with Marvel elements. Both get better after the first episode.

Andor I have 2 episodes left to finish, ah I feel its so slow and drawn out.

She Hulk, I hated the first episode, but it kinda came into its own and I ended up really enjoying it, but the last episode absolutely ruined the whole thing for me.

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Post by brewdad »

systemicdanna wrote: post #86
nightski wrote: post #60

Is there any concrete evidence they are in a battle? How many households have both? I know Verizon includes the Disney bundle for free. Netflix just launched it's ad supported plan as well. Lots of things are in flux right now.

Anecdotally: not in a battle. I have unsubscribed from Netflix last year and got Disney+/Hulu for free. So these services are not fighting for my money!

Same. Although we resubbed to Netflix after going without it for 3 or 4 months. Netflix has juuuuuust enough content to keep my wife interested. I could go without it and wouldn't miss much. For as little TV she watches though, having "her" shows available when she does want to watch means we keep paying.
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