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Re: TomTom’s new mapping platform and ecosystem

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My father in law had a TomTom and maps were always years behind reality (and he paid for several updates as they promised the changes would be in there, but no), so updating or not does not matter.

not to disagree, but maps are always behind reality

Yes, but Google maps is quite good I think.

Re: TomTom’s new mapping platform and ecosystem

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I have a modern car with a built-in satnav as well as Android Auto support, and yet I still use my TomTom 5000 - it's just better. Definitely better than crappy Google Maps, definitely better than volvo's built-in maps, and it's without any kind of comparison how much better it is than Apple Maps. You get in the car, it auto-selects the destination based on the patterns it learnt(so if you get in at 7am on a workday,…

Google maps with Android Auto does auto-learn popular/regular destinations and suggests them at appropriate times. It works pretty well.

Apple Maps as well, but I have no idea why I would need directions to work from home ...

Re: TomTom’s new mapping platform and ecosystem

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Tom Tom used to charge for map updates, which became a no-go for many. The same thing thing with built-in ones. Toyota asked 60 euro for the map updates and unfortunately no android/ios auto.. i am going between google maps / apple maps. I find routes better in google maps but i love apple maps voice indications better. I still have also a free lifetime update tomtom but it very slow to add destination etc.

> Tom Tom used to charge for map updates, which became a no-go for many. This is what led to their demise, no?

That's definitely why I stopped using TomTom. Like gambiting, I really liked their product. They were compact, fast and the UX was great. But Google Maps is free.

Re: TomTom’s new mapping platform and ecosystem

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A meta-comment: The entire tone of this press release is so weird, e.g.: "There’s also significant talk about how the company will use OSM data. It’s clear TomTom is treading cautiously and respectfully here.". That's something you might expect to read in an article written by an independent journalist, not a corporate press release written by in-house staff.

Press releases are always written in a way that makes it as easy as possible for journalists to just, well, basically copy the text and just use it without modifications. That’s a press release writing best practice. Your goal is to match the journalistic writing style as closely as possible, all the while still transporting all the messages you want to transport. Make it easy for the journalist to be lazy. It has be…

This is true.

A lot of "stories" that are released under reporter bylines, are actually verbatim from the corporation or government agency. I wouldn't be surprised if the original text is copyrighted, so people can't play with it too much.

Many years ago, an Australian magazine, called Crikey, did a series on Spin in the Media: https://www.crikey.com.au/topic/spinning-the-media/

Re: TomTom’s new mapping platform and ecosystem

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For the youngens here on HN: TomTom was once one of the leading manufacturers of GPS navigation systems for cars - purchased as an accessory that was stuck to the wind screen. This was in a time before every car had a screen built in, and before everyone had a smart phone with Google Maps in their pocket. I guess that product is a prime example for becoming irrelevant by society progressing. I actually still use an o…

I find your post funny, since I'm regularly using TomTom on my Android phone because it has a better UI and some nicer car navigation features than Google Maps. Based on the number of downloads and TomTom's financials, I'm not even close to being alone. I've also seen it as a default navigation provider in many car brands so I find your bubble biased post pretty funny - and kinda sad, because we see a lot of those he…

The point of OP was history not preferences. And judging by financials a brief history may in fact be enlightening to many.

Re: TomTom’s new mapping platform and ecosystem

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For the youngens here on HN: TomTom was once one of the leading manufacturers of GPS navigation systems for cars - purchased as an accessory that was stuck to the wind screen. This was in a time before every car had a screen built in, and before everyone had a smart phone with Google Maps in their pocket. I guess that product is a prime example for becoming irrelevant by society progressing. I actually still use an o…

I had one. It worked pretty well but sometime took a little while to “lock onto” the gps signal. I think the cloud based gps on phones won for being free and having traffic info. My Tom Tom had the “mr T” celebrity voice yelling directions at me. A friend had John Clease. This is before gps directions told you street names, but with ai I think they could manage this again.

Asssited GPS[1] solved that exactly problem, since not network connected GPS devices need download GPS almanac and ephemerides via GPS 50bits/s connection, which can take a while.

[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GNSS

Re: TomTom’s new mapping platform and ecosystem

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For the youngens here on HN: TomTom was once one of the leading manufacturers of GPS navigation systems for cars - purchased as an accessory that was stuck to the wind screen. This was in a time before every car had a screen built in, and before everyone had a smart phone with Google Maps in their pocket. I guess that product is a prime example for becoming irrelevant by society progressing. I actually still use an o…

Nowadays most people just use their smartphone, but there's definitely one market where an "old fashioned" navigation thing like this is still relevant: motorcycles. They need to be high contrast, low power usage (because most motorcycles don't have a power outlet), waterproof, offline, and resistive touch screens (because gloves). I did look into them at one point, but they had a €500 price tag which is a bit steep.

I don't know I just watch for the main clues before the ride and memorize the main highway roads and exit numbers, follow the signs and if at some point I have doubt I just stop by the side or take the next exit, remove one glove and check on the smartphone.

I think my security would be compromized if I had to look at a screen regularly while riding my motorbike.

I'd say a better option is to use a headset and follow vocal instructions.

Re: TomTom’s new mapping platform and ecosystem

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Press releases are always written in a way that makes it as easy as possible for journalists to just, well, basically copy the text and just use it without modifications. That’s a press release writing best practice. Your goal is to match the journalistic writing style as closely as possible, all the while still transporting all the messages you want to transport. Make it easy for the journalist to be lazy. It has be…

This is true. A lot of "stories" that are released under reporter bylines, are actually verbatim from the corporation or government agency. I wouldn't be surprised if the original text is copyrighted, so people can't play with it too much. Many years ago, an Australian magazine, called Crikey, did a series on Spin in the Media: https://www.crikey.com.au/topic/spinning-the-media/

Nothing to do with copyright at all. Reporters can do with the text however they please. There are no practical legal issues involved.

It‘s about making things as convenient as possible for journalists, not legal enforcement of anything.

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