Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far • Hacker News Board

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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Post by the_optimist » Fri, Oct 28, 2022, 6:42 PM UTC

PartiallyTyped wrote: post #22

Covzire wrote: post #14

Musk just tweeted this 5 mins ago: "Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with widely diverse viewpoints. No major content decisions or account reinstatements will happen before that council convenes."

Ironic considering Babylon Bee was just unbanned even though they violated TOS. Also ironic that his goal was to promote free speech and painted moderation as evil. —- It is beyond me that I am downvoted for pointing the irony of the situation. So many proponents of free speech have so few regards to give for TOS and have the audacity to demand service without abiding to it. It seems that HN is no longer a bastion of…

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Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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Post by linuxftw » Fri, Oct 28, 2022, 6:43 PM UTC

ginger2016 wrote: post #64

Elon Musk wants to set the bird free. But is the bird going to be free? Even free speech people don’t like speech that is critical of their beliefs, the pressure on Elon Musk to widen the definition of hate speech will be significant. The pressure from advertisers will force him to cave. There will be pressure from platform owners like Apple and Google as well. If the moderation is weak Apple could decide to remove t…

"Pressure from advertisers" implies the advertisers are paying more than the marginal utility of the ads themselves in some kind of corporate-back-scratching model.

If the ads provide a ROI, then other advertisers will gladly jump on board.

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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Post by strangattractor » Fri, Oct 28, 2022, 6:43 PM UTC

davidw wrote: post #11

I think the thing to watch will be ads and other revenue streams. Most companies aren't going to want their ads next to 'free for all' content, so we'll see what happens.

That kind of info will be difficult to get - he is taking the company private - no need to make all those bothersome public disclosures.

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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Post by duped » Fri, Oct 28, 2022, 6:43 PM UTC

memish wrote: post #29

halfmatthalfcat wrote: post #9

Prediction: Brain drain at Twitter begins as Elon starts enacting unpopular policies. Valuation tanks. Morale becomes non-existent and Twitter slowly starts to fade from existence while competitors begin to fill the void. I give it 3-5 years before it's gone full husk.

Prediction: Twitter becomes more efficient, focused and profitable than they ever have been. And it will return to the platform neutrality and free speech ideals it had prior to 2015ish.

4chan has always been around if you want platform neutrality and free speech.

The results are unsurprising.

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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Post by twelve40 » Fri, Oct 28, 2022, 6:44 PM UTC

halfmatthalfcat wrote: post #9

Prediction: Brain drain at Twitter begins as Elon starts enacting unpopular policies. Valuation tanks. Morale becomes non-existent and Twitter slowly starts to fade from existence while competitors begin to fill the void. I give it 3-5 years before it's gone full husk.

Wikipedia (a feature-rich site) is operated by 500 people.

Twitter, with roughly the same measly feature set it had 15 years ago, is operated by 7500 people.

Maybe some "brain drain" would not be a bad thing?

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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Post by sevenf0ur » Fri, Oct 28, 2022, 6:44 PM UTC

soumyadeb wrote: post #34

Would be interesting if he makes Twitter more dev friendly (open APIs etc)

Maybe if they go private they can work on user focused stuff. I'd like to be able to use the site again without being forced to sign in.

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Oct 28, 2022, 6:44 PM UTC

halfmatthalfcat wrote: post #9

Prediction: Brain drain at Twitter begins as Elon starts enacting unpopular policies. Valuation tanks. Morale becomes non-existent and Twitter slowly starts to fade from existence while competitors begin to fill the void. I give it 3-5 years before it's gone full husk.

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Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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Post by butner » Fri, Oct 28, 2022, 6:44 PM UTC

freespeechrox wrote: post #79

halfmatthalfcat wrote: post #9

Prediction: Brain drain at Twitter begins as Elon starts enacting unpopular policies. Valuation tanks. Morale becomes non-existent and Twitter slowly starts to fade from existence while competitors begin to fill the void. I give it 3-5 years before it's gone full husk.

I plan on applying to work for Twitter now that it supports free speech. I’d like to think I can provide a net positive to the org with 15 years experience as a developer, founder and CTO. Maybe it’ll end up being a net zero brain swap.

Your account was created to make this comment?

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Post by MetaWhirledPeas » Fri, Oct 28, 2022, 6:44 PM UTC

als0 wrote: post #19

hartator wrote: post #8

It can be great for freedom of speech. Hopefully, it won't distract Elon too much from SpaceX, Tesla, and other important work. I still don't get how he managed to be CEO of multiple high-complexity companies. It's already not easy to be CEO of just one.

> I still don't get how he managed to be CEO of multiple high-complexity companies One can assume he knows how to delegate.

That, and he still knows how to keep his hand near the steering wheel when the Management Autopilot begins to stray. Geez now that I think about it, his fascination with FSD makes perfect sense.

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Post by twblalock » Fri, Oct 28, 2022, 6:44 PM UTC

halfmatthalfcat wrote: post #9

Prediction: Brain drain at Twitter begins as Elon starts enacting unpopular policies. Valuation tanks. Morale becomes non-existent and Twitter slowly starts to fade from existence while competitors begin to fill the void. I give it 3-5 years before it's gone full husk.

The brain drain started months ago.