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SiriSpy – iOS bug allowed apps to eavesdrop on your conversations with Siri

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Re: SiriSpy – iOS bug allowed apps to eavesdrop on your conversations with Siri

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I'm an avid iPhone user but have never had the need or the desire to use Siri.

I suggest people do what I do, load a profile that disables Siri - easily created using the Apple Configurator tool (under "Restrictions" untick "Allow Siri").

N.B. I've never looked closely under Settings on the phone itself, there may well be Siri off option there ? But I just load profiles as I find its easier for hardening.

Re: SiriSpy – iOS bug allowed apps to eavesdrop on your conversations with Siri

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Man, I used to love using Siri, until I had a daughter and named her "Sarah" big mistake. Turns out I say "Hey Sarah" a hundred times a day, and all my iDevices pipe up and simultaneously say "Yeah?" "WHAT'S UP" "HEY OVER HERE" "Hi it's me Siri what do you need?"

Why did you pick 'Sarah'

Late every night I cry and scream while asking myself this same question, surrounded by my iPhone, Apple Watch, 3 iPads, MacBook Pro, and Mac Studio

How could I have been such a fool!???

Re: SiriSpy – iOS bug allowed apps to eavesdrop on your conversations with Siri

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No kidding! She obviously knew what was wanted, but instead of doing her fing job, she tells you how to do it yourself. She doesn't like when I tell her to F herself. I hope some of those recordings end up with Apple training.

May they be hedging against a vulnerability where a malicious person with similar enough voice closes some crucial app in a sticky situation. It's not as harmless than setting reminders/alarms which I use Siri for.

yeah like in that movie when the Bomb Squad is using Pocket Bomb Defuser Pro 2023 and the bomber shouts over the loudspeakers "Siri, Turn off Bomb Defuser Pro" and then everyone was sad.

A moody teenager rips a poster of Jobs off their bedroom wall.

Re: SiriSpy – iOS bug allowed apps to eavesdrop on your conversations with Siri

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I think it depends on the phone. The Google Pixel series seems pretty solid for reliability. I have a Pixel 7 Pro and it's been really good so far in terms of software and build quality. I strongly prefer it to my iPhone 13 Pro, which I'm currently selling off. But iPhone vs Samsung Galaxy? iPhone wins by a mile. I never got used to the custom interface Samsung loaded onto those phones, and hated that it included Sam…

Pixels had a defect where emergency calls didnt work with MS teams installed. Both platforms wither under the lights

They still have problems with emergency calls.

https://www.androidpolice.com/google-pixel-phones-struggling...

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Blackmailing? It's called negotiating from a strong position.

That really depends how will judge and lawyers look on it.

So now people that discover exploits should be bullied and threatened by corporations for asking for more money? Heck, I hope Apple does this so that no one will ever want to use them again.

Re: SiriSpy – iOS bug allowed apps to eavesdrop on your conversations with Siri

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Occasionally I ask her (it?) to set a timer or add a reminder, but mostly I don't. Siri is quite slow and frustratingly limited. The other day in a hurry and driving somewhere, I ended up w/ both Apple Maps and Google Maps open, simultaneously giving me directions. "Hey Siri, close Google Maps" "To close an application, swipe up from the bottom of the phone..." To paraphrase a quote from Steve Jobs, if your voice ass…

Siri's performance and quality seems to depend a lot on the on-board ML cores since it switched to on-device. It was basically unusable on my 6S Plus with its early ML cores, and now it's great on the 14 Pro Max I replaced it with. It seems like they ship a Siri to match the device capability.

I had the idea that Siri could only recognize "Hey Siri", and after that it would offload the task to Apple's cloud. If it's offline now, it would be great, but I don't see how the ML cores would help. Speech-To-Text is practically solved for most devices, after that you're interacting with a regular chat bot.

Re: SiriSpy – iOS bug allowed apps to eavesdrop on your conversations with Siri

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Android it works pretty much perfectly and you can speak at normal speed. With Android it pretty much works perfectly and you can speak at normal speed. <== Same sentence dictated at full speed.

Yeah not for me. Android, nor Siri, nor Alexa.

It'll suck if you ever lose function to type with your fingers.

Re: SiriSpy – iOS bug allowed apps to eavesdrop on your conversations with Siri

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Is anyone else an avid iPhone user, yet also someone who never uses Siri? I've used an iPhone exclusively for the past 8 years, and I can count on one hand the number of times I've used Siri. Interestingly, the one person I know who loves using Siri is my 70yr old dad.

I use Siri to set a timer. That's it. And I do it by holding my power button to activate her. My only other use of Siri usually involved phrases like "stop", "go away", "close", "fucking close!", "you stupid f cking * ** close the **** thing" when Siri would pop up out of nowhere and interrupt whatever I was actually doing. I had it turned off, but occasionally somehow it's back on, listening. Other actual attempts a…

My only usage of it is as a push-button dictionary/translator, "define x", "how do you say x in Spanish". For every other use I've found it extremely limited, you have to ask the right questions, otherwise it defaults to a web search on my wife's phone, even if she's not in the room.

How, after all these years, is it still so stunted? There are Telegram bots with better interaction.

Re: SiriSpy – iOS bug allowed apps to eavesdrop on your conversations with Siri

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I think they burried the lede here. Conversations with Siri are probably pretty generic but being able to evesdrop on keyboard dictation is pretty severe. I know people that use dictation for the majority of their text messages and email.

How many people use diction? I'm surprised cause I know virtually no one who uses diction, myself included.

I use it constantly for brainstorming ideas and thinking out loud. Very rough first drafts of essays, stuff like that.

Basically whenever I just want to get my thoughts out and I'll be the only person reading it, so I don't worry about typos because I can always figure out what I meant.

It's a godsend in terms of speed. I type fast but my brain still goes faster. But I definitely speak faster than I can think.

It only works privately in an office or at home though, obviously. Not helpful on the subway.

Re: SiriSpy – iOS bug allowed apps to eavesdrop on your conversations with Siri

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I think it depends on the phone. The Google Pixel series seems pretty solid for reliability. I have a Pixel 7 Pro and it's been really good so far in terms of software and build quality. I strongly prefer it to my iPhone 13 Pro, which I'm currently selling off. But iPhone vs Samsung Galaxy? iPhone wins by a mile. I never got used to the custom interface Samsung loaded onto those phones, and hated that it included Sam…

I have an iPhone 13 Pro. I found that Android is almost a brick the moment you lose an Internet connection where as the iPhone is still productive and I can do stuff offline and it'll sync everything later no problems. That is a complete dealbreaker for me for Android. Also, Google.

I mainly use my phone for three things:

1. Pleco

2. Wechat

3. Kindle app

Pleco (a dictionary) and Kindle (an ebook reader) work fine offline. Why wouldn't they?

Wechat, of course, can't do anything offline, because it's communication software. It is not even clear what "use wechat offline" would mean.

Android itself obviously works equally well whether you're connected to the Internet or not. What do you mean by becoming "almost a brick"?

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