Hey Ivan, congrats from Nantes, come back when you want :)
Thanks, I loved it there! :)
I gave a talk in Nantes about making Photopea: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZmaeC_Ma5A
Photopea: A free Photoshop alternative making millions
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Re: Photopea: A free Photoshop alternative making millions
#112Photopea should be GIMP's permanent embarrassment. I can't believe running a webapp offline written by a single person is more viable than a native program developed by a vast amount of contributors over decades.
GIMP has a neat feature called "Color To Alpha", which no other editor has (including Adobe Photoshop). I have added it to Photopea two years ago: https://github.com/photopea/photopea/issues/2205
Re: Photopea: A free Photoshop alternative making millions
#113Photopea should be GIMP's permanent embarrassment. I can't believe running a webapp offline written by a single person is more viable than a native program developed by a vast amount of contributors over decades.
Gimp is a permanent embarrassment of humanity itself. Literally the worst software I have ever used.
Gimp has been solving the need of users looking for an open source image editing software for decades. It has been used and forked as filmgimp, now cinepaint who has been used in the film industry.
Not really what I'd call an embarassment.
Re: Photopea: A free Photoshop alternative making millions
#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
Depends what your goal is. For a long time the GIMP people were pretty clear they just wanted to work on it in their spare time for fun. Ton on the other hand always had some very clear and much bigger ideas what he wanted to do with Blender. Is one way "better" or "worse"? I don't think so, it just depends on what your goals are.
When working with big complex applications, learning how to use them is no small investment. It's not a matter of which development methodology better or worse, what matters to me is whether or not I will see a return on my investment. With Krita, Blender, Inkscape, Love2D, even Kate, I'm confident those time investments will be worth it. With GIMP and Godot and a few others, I'm not sure.
> With GIMP and Godot and a few others, I'm not sure.
Why?
I unlearnt photoshop 2 decades ago (basically when I stopped being a teenager/young adult downloading pirate copy of softwares I can't afford) and got used to gimp and I never really missed the photoshop.
Re: Photopea: A free Photoshop alternative making millions
#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
Photopea is very usable on lower-spec machines that grind to a halt when Photoshop is open. It also "boots" almost instantly, and doesn't require installing anything other than a browser.
I wish Adobe sold modernized older versions of Photoshop. For most of my uses PS 7 or CS1 is entirely adequate and those versions ran great on a paltry 400Mhz PowerPC G3 with 128MB of RAM, meaning that it'd be blazing fast on the cheapest modern laptops you can find.
Nobody prevents you to reuse an old copy on a VM or a container. With a shared folder you don't have to give it network access.
Re: Photopea: A free Photoshop alternative making millions
#116So that settles it - Javascript is all you need.
Photopea is using WebAssembly, too.
Re: Photopea: A free Photoshop alternative making millions
#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's been the feeling of many of us for years (literally, when I knew a few of the GIMP folks back in my VA Linux days I rattled off stuff I thought was valuable and some of its still not there...mostly around the baroque UX, 20+ years on). It's sad because it's not that the app isn't powerful, it's that it's obtuse to anyone but diehards.
I tried to talk and engage in the community for a while, came up with really well researched tried-and-tested UX improvements, only to be dismissed as not “relevant”. Further engagements only seem to be showing how opaque the decision making process is (you can see this in a different form in the wordpress community btw)
You have to keep in mind that for as many non gimp user asking for a change in gimp UI there are as many current gimp users who would not necessarily see it as a good change if it hurts their muscle memory and workflow.
For example when they introduced the single window mode as default, I view it as a regression only because people can't use a window manager properly or pretend to do professional stuff on what is just a glorified video game console OS with a shitty windows management. Thanksfully they kept an option to keep using multiple windows mode for us.
Re: Photopea: A free Photoshop alternative making millions
#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
Gimp is a great idea but is a non-starter because of the incredibly disturbing name. I've never heard of photopea before today, but I'm sure glad there's a good alternative. Edit: here’s what gimp means: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gimp 1. Derogatory term for disabled person 2. Insult meaning stupid person 3. Male sex slave Could they possibly have picked a worse name? “Poor taste” is a huge under…
So you can't use a software because of its name? It would be offensive if that word was refering to someone. It doesn't. It refered initially to "General Image Manipulation Program" and now to "Gnu Image Manipulation Program". It is litterally in the front page of the Gimp website. It is an acronym.
Yeah but if there was a program called HITLER, NAZI, CRIPPLE or what have you, even if their names were acronyms, would you really not think twice about using it?
Re: Photopea: A free Photoshop alternative making millions
#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
So you can't use a software because of its name? It would be offensive if that word was refering to someone. It doesn't. It refered initially to "General Image Manipulation Program" and now to "Gnu Image Manipulation Program". It is litterally in the front page of the Gimp website. It is an acronym.
Yeah but if there was a program called HITLER, NAZI, CRIPPLE or what have you, even if their names were acronyms, would you really not think twice about using it?
Congrats from reaching godwin point so early. The former 2 are not really the same scale as they refer to real events that occured, an ideology and agenda.
I don't think I would be annoyed by a software called cripple, especially if it also stands for something else through the acronym., I would probably take it as a joke on the potentially beta status of the software at some point in its life. Again it is not targetting anyone in particular, unlike the former 2.
Re: Photopea: A free Photoshop alternative making millions
#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
You likely have a browser setting that needs to be changed. It runs fine for me in Firefox.
yeah I'm also on firefox and its working for me. this shouldn't be a problem mozilla supports webassembly
Yuu're both right. For some reason I had:
about:config > javascript.options.wasm > FALSE
Could be that's the default. I certainly don't remember disabling WebAssembly at any time.
Photopea working fine in FF now.