How will this be resistant to scams where you "refer a friend" to get free Uber Eats or Doordash or whatever?
Protect your privacy and your phone number with Firefox Relay
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Re: Protect your privacy and your phone number with Firefox Relay
#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
A password manager would fit in nice. Maybe acquire Bitwarden.
I can't tell if /s is missing or not but Mozilla had a standalone password manager eventually it changed its name to Lockwise, and once all my passwords were in it, they sunsetted it even quicker than a google product.
Integrated into Firefox now. Works similar to how the lockwise app did on iOS.
Re: Protect your privacy and your phone number with Firefox Relay
#113I like what Mozilla has been doing with their services, but they have built a very confusing business model of many micro services that I just don't see a ton of people signing up for as independent subscriptions. Why not bundle them all as one membership? Pocket, Mozilla VPN, Relay, Monitor, and whatever services they can scrape up premium options and features for to give them value?
> Why not bundle them all as one membership?
That would be cool; then I could unsubscribe from all of them with a single action.
Why is this branded "Firefox"? This is apparently a Mozilla project, unrelated to their web browser.
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#114If y'all are interested in something like this, let me know. I wrote a service exactly like this [0] and it sort of flopped because the marketing plan was bad and I struggled to crack my (poorly chosen) target market of 'privacyfreaks'. If you want to re-co-found with me on marketing / sales, hit me up: maddie+hn[at]qnzl.co. I tried some pivots, sucked at marketing it, I occasionally get asked about where it went. --…
Aside: qnzl.co gives me a page not found and a warning about a selfsigned cert.
Re: Protect your privacy and your phone number with Firefox Relay
#115Maybe this is a good place to ask: I'm a British expat living in the USA, and for a while now I've wanted a service which provides a British phone number, and forwards calls and texts to my US number, while also allowing me to send texts and make calls "from" the UK number if I want to. It looks like I might be able to do this with Twilio, but I'm not a developer, and quickly got frustrated trying to build what I wan…
Check out Andrews & Arnold. They provide real 07 numbers that aren't classified as VoIP by most providers, so they will actually work fine for most online services too. (my company resells these with some add-on services on top, but for your use-case you're better off just going to the source directly)
I was tempted by this but I've heard they'll shut down your service if they figure out you're outside the UK? I still have a UK number at the moment but if I could port to A&A without worrying about this I totally would.
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#116I don't understand the idea behind it. Now: 1) You give your real number to someone. 2) Somehow your real number goes into a list used by robo-callers. 3) A robo-call arrives on your real number, disturbing your peace. After: 0) You give Mozilla 3.99 or 4.99 US$/month 1) You give your Mozilla number to someone. 2) Somehow your Mozilla number goes into a list used by robo-callers. 3) A robo-call arrives on your Mozill…
(Relay engineer here.) This is definitely just the first step; we've got lots of ideas for additional protections we could add, and are monitoring usage and feedback [1] to inform our roadmap. What this first version gives you is a way to add a tier of trust to your phone number: your Relay number for untrustworthy partners, and your true phone number for important things. That means that data leaks of untrustworthy…
>This is definitely just the first step; we've got lots of ideas for additional protections we could add, and are monitoring usage and feedback [1] to inform our roadmap.
Yes, and I don't doubt in the least that it may become the third best thing in life after icecream and sliced bread, but right now its usage cases and advantages seem not clear.
Maybe it could be useful to people that lose/get stolen their phone/number, since this mask is "centralized" you change the connected "real" number to a new one only in one place instead of updating several places where the old real number is stored.
>Additionally, if you receive a phishing call to your Relay number, that's an extra red flag that it might not be who they say it is.
I still don't understand.
If I use this relay, giving this mask number to three different organizations for - say - 2FA or emergency recovery or similar, any call or SMS to that number must come from one of the three (untill it is leaked).
Once it is leaked it may still come from any of the three or from someone who is attempting a phishing call, what is the difference against a "main" number or a spare "burner" one?
Re: Protect your privacy and your phone number with Firefox Relay
#117> Since launching in 2020, Firefox Relay – a privacy-first product that hides your real email address to help protect your identity – has blocked more than 1.3 million unwanted emails
Gmail might block the same 1.3M unwanted emails every... minute?
Re: Protect your privacy and your phone number with Firefox Relay
#118This is my 2FA Mule. There are others like it, but this one is mine: https://kozubik.com/items/2famule/
This is very interesting and nice.
Re: Protect your privacy and your phone number with Firefox Relay
#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think the idea is to give your real email and phone number to real friends and family; then you use the relayed one with online services who might sell or lose the data. Then you could presumably ditch the related info after the spam gets to be too much? Or maybe you just do it to be more anonymous? It’s like the concept of a “burner phone” I think
textnow.com is free and what I have been using for years.
To save some people a click, it's US only
Re: Protect your privacy and your phone number with Firefox Relay
#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
(Relay engineer here.) This is definitely just the first step; we've got lots of ideas for additional protections we could add, and are monitoring usage and feedback [1] to inform our roadmap. What this first version gives you is a way to add a tier of trust to your phone number: your Relay number for untrustworthy partners, and your true phone number for important things. That means that data leaks of untrustworthy…
>This is definitely just the first step; we've got lots of ideas for additional protections we could add, and are monitoring usage and feedback [1] to inform our roadmap. Yes, and I don't doubt in the least that it may become the third best thing in life after icecream and sliced bread, but right now its usage cases and advantages seem not clear. Maybe it could be useful to people that lose/get stolen their phone/num…
Like email masks, we recommend using the phone mask for untrusted organisations. In other words, if you need to provide a phone number to get a shopping coupon, use your Relay number. If your bank wants to do 2FA via SMS (please no, but you know how banks are...), provide your true number.
Now, if you get a phishing attempt that looks like it's from your bank, but it's sent to your Relay number, that should be an additional sign that it's unlikely to actually be from your bank.