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Pentagon Puts DJI on Blacklist

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Re: Pentagon Puts DJI on Blacklist

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Pardon my ignorance, but is there any reason why a GoPro (Max) or Insta360 is not sufficient?

Isn't Insta360 Chinese too? GoPro is/was manufactured in China as well.

"Manufactured in China" (a.k.a. "everything") and "designed, built and controlled by a Chinese Party affiliate" seem to be very different. There is some risk in "manufactured in China" too, but orders of magnitude lower.

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This is a fairly broad problem across the whole phone app world, isn't it? For example, I bought an iOS app for LAN analysis, but then deleted it when it turned out it wouldn't work unless you gave it access to your physical location (I assume that was for their data marketing side business). Also, any data information collected by a US company also has 'a nonzero chance of being handed over to the American authoriti…

> but then deleted it when it turned out it wouldn't work unless you gave it access to your physical location (I assume that was for their data marketing side business). In order to use bluetooth or internet access through wireless means you must request location access because it's assumed that you can match a person's location with the access points and bluetooth devices around them (BL beacons). It sucks but Andro…

iOS handles this differently - there is a distinct permission for accessing local networks and devices, and another for location. Within location, you can choose precise or vague.

Re: Pentagon Puts DJI on Blacklist

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The Ukrainian-Russo war has shown the military the power of offensive drones. You think they are going to allow civilians to own such powerful potential weapons in the future? I think offensive drone warfare is just scratching the surface. I can think of a few modifications to drones, I've yet to see in Ukraine, that could increase their lethality 10x.

Assault Rifles seem to be ok for the US government to place into the hands of US civilians.

Please let me know how to buy one, they are forbidden since 1936 with very few exceptions and astronomic prices.

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Wouldn’t the GPS on phone be primarily so that the drone knows where to go in case of emergency? I have also used a drone to follow me while on a bicycle or in a car…it seems like the phone would need GPS there as well. Wondering if GPS on the drone would dramatically affect battery life as well?

> where to go in case of emergency In case of emergency, drones just land where they are, or they could try to go back to the point of origin. Depending on the emergency, the drone might lose connection with the operator, in which case your own location is not very useful. I didn't run into emergencies lately but usually as far as I know the operator sets out to retrieve the drone. > Wondering if GPS on the drone wou…

I think the drone landing where it is could be pretty catastrophic given that the drone really doesn't know what is below. Pilots routinely fly over large crowds, traffic, water, etc... and a drone with no controller just landing into one of those things is pretty dangerous. The drone doesn't necessarily need to have connection with the pilot at all times, but if it has a reference for the last point of contact, it can be helpful to guide it back to a known location.

Touche on the computer vision point!

Re: Pentagon Puts DJI on Blacklist

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> but then deleted it when it turned out it wouldn't work unless you gave it access to your physical location (I assume that was for their data marketing side business). In order to use bluetooth or internet access through wireless means you must request location access because it's assumed that you can match a person's location with the access points and bluetooth devices around them (BL beacons). It sucks but Andro…

iOS handles this differently - there is a distinct permission for accessing local networks and devices, and another for location. Within location, you can choose precise or vague.

Sort of off-topic complaint, but I wish Apple didn't make the Precise Location permission status viewable by apps. There's no reason they need to know if I'm obfuscating my location from them, and many apps look for this setting and refuse to work with Precise Location disabled.

For example the McDonald's app doesn't allow you to use coupons unless you enable the precise location permission.

Re: Pentagon Puts DJI on Blacklist

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> but then deleted it when it turned out it wouldn't work unless you gave it access to your physical location (I assume that was for their data marketing side business). In order to use bluetooth or internet access through wireless means you must request location access because it's assumed that you can match a person's location with the access points and bluetooth devices around them (BL beacons). It sucks but Andro…

iOS handles this differently - there is a distinct permission for accessing local networks and devices, and another for location. Within location, you can choose precise or vague.

So android provides "coarse" or "precise" which maps to "wireless" or "gps" but the prompt tells you the app can get your location for either one.

Re: Pentagon Puts DJI on Blacklist

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>anything that can broadcast a signal (bluetooth/wifi) it's the opposite - anything that can read a signal that has been broadcast by another deivce requires location permission. which makes sense, because if you can poll for nearby wifi networks or bluetooth beacons you can determine location, even without using the GPS hardware.

Yeah, makes sense from "not confusing users" perspective. "This app only needs wifi network list, it isn't spying on me" would be easy mistake to make

so Android permissions actually separate coarse and precise but the prompt for location is the same whether you request one or the other.

Re: Pentagon Puts DJI on Blacklist

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

iOS handles this differently - there is a distinct permission for accessing local networks and devices, and another for location. Within location, you can choose precise or vague.

Sort of off-topic complaint, but I wish Apple didn't make the Precise Location permission status viewable by apps. There's no reason they need to know if I'm obfuscating my location from them, and many apps look for this setting and refuse to work with Precise Location disabled. For example the McDonald's app doesn't allow you to use coupons unless you enable the precise location permission.

Some of it comes down to whether the app should rely on that positional data... like for catching an uber or something.

I do think that's exploiting the ecosystem and I have a feeling one well placed complaint with Apple would cause a stern message to McDonald's... does the app tell you it's because of your location accuracy?

Re: Pentagon Puts DJI on Blacklist

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Disappointed that grassroots drone companies such as 3DR died as a result of aggressive Chinese companies such as DJI pushing good quality drones for less. Now the US market has lesser alternatives and we’re having to go back to hobby kits to build anything similar to a DJI.

fr i don't think it's a coincidence that our market has been flooded by software-controlled chinesium. not to get too tinfoil-hatty but it makes sense from the chinese perspective.

What's not software-controlled these days? DJI has better products, consumers buys DJI, DJI is Chinese, consumer end-up with Chinese software, what's your point?
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