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ErgodoxE EZ – an ergonomic keyboard with open source firmware

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Re: ErgodoxE EZ – an ergonomic keyboard with open source firmware

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I like my ergodox but I love my Kinesis Advantage. Seriously consider looking at the Kinesis before any other option. The learning curve is hard but the pay off is amazing. I truly love that keyboard and will replace it with a new one as soon as I need to.

I’ve had my eye on the Kinesis advantage for a long time. Is there any form of virtual layering like on the ergodox? That’s been a key feature for me with the ergodox and I’d have a hard time living without it.

Re: ErgodoxE EZ – an ergonomic keyboard with open source firmware

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post #108

I like my ergodox but I love my Kinesis Advantage. Seriously consider looking at the Kinesis before any other option. The learning curve is hard but the pay off is amazing. I truly love that keyboard and will replace it with a new one as soon as I need to.

Agree. I use so much more of the keyboard and more efficiently on the Advantage2. Really wish it had been the standard that won everybody over.

Re: ErgodoxE EZ – an ergonomic keyboard with open source firmware

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Does ortholinear/columnar actually feel better? I feel like I see many comments about how there's a bit of a learning curve that can be overcome after a while, but very few comments about whether overcoming that learning curve is actually worth it and it's really more comfortable. Is it supposed to be better for your wrists? Or your fingers? The "split" aspect of these keyboards is definitely more comfortable imo - I…

When I look at my hands (31) my fingers actually look slightly twisted and crooked. There’s a chance that I might have broke them without realising when I was younger doing martial arts and rugby but I’m of the firm belief that they’ve got this way through hammering shallow non ortholinear keyboards (specifically the magic keyboard) for years. I’ve had pain in my fingers at certain points over the years from typing f…

It's common. Look at an old person's hands, especially one with arthritis.

Re: ErgodoxE EZ – an ergonomic keyboard with open source firmware

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A couple thoughts.

I've had an ErgoDox for almost 9 years.

I wrote my thoughts after a year here [0].

I use the Norman layout which I'm generally pleased with but don't know if the finger travel buys you that much. More important to me had been leveraging both thumbs to hit commonly used keys and modifiers.

In the last week, I was made aware of the miryoku layout and made a Norman version. (Prior to COVID-19, I traveled quite a bit and thought about getting a gergoplex for travel which would require a smaller layout like miryoku). It was like learning to use the ErgoDox all over (so I pulled out my extra ErgoDox with my normal layout). Time will tell if I commit to learning it.

I like the ErgoDox but admit that it is an acquired taste and you should get a keyboard that works for you.

That said, were I buying a keyboard today, I would get the Kinesis 360.

0 - https://hairysun.com/revisiting-the-ergodox.html

Re: ErgodoxE EZ – an ergonomic keyboard with open source firmware

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How are these split keyboards for gaming? I guess not great in many fast paced FPS or MOBAs which is a bit of a deal breaker for me.

The size of the Kinesis Advantage is another big problem in gaming I reckon, with very little space left for the mouse - I have a full keyboard with numpad and I'm already thinking of going tenkeyless for more space.

EDIT: ah... nevermind, these comments have convinced me to splurge on a Moonlander, which can be used with only the left half plugged in. Also probably a good idea to invest in an ergonomic setup now that I was thinking of removing evil and going back to the Emacs keybindings.

Re: ErgodoxE EZ – an ergonomic keyboard with open source firmware

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How are these split keyboards for gaming? I guess not great in many fast paced FPS or MOBAs which is a bit of a deal breaker for me. The size of the Kinesis Advantage is another big problem in gaming I reckon, with very little space left for the mouse - I have a full keyboard with numpad and I'm already thinking of going tenkeyless for more space. EDIT: ah... nevermind, these comments have convinced me to splurge on…

the kinesis advantage gives more room for the mouse. and gaming on FPS or MOBA is totally feasible. but gaming is pretty terrible activity as it increases your chance of developing RSI. I would go back and never play games :/

Re: ErgodoxE EZ – an ergonomic keyboard with open source firmware

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As someone who owns the Moonlander, ZSA's proprietary successor to the Ergodox EZ, I consider the soon-to-be-released Dygma Defy (https://dygma.com/pages/defy) to be superior to either in every respect save perhaps for the maturity of its firmware platform.

Re: ErgodoxE EZ – an ergonomic keyboard with open source firmware

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post #108

I like my ergodox but I love my Kinesis Advantage. Seriously consider looking at the Kinesis before any other option. The learning curve is hard but the pay off is amazing. I truly love that keyboard and will replace it with a new one as soon as I need to.

I’ve had my eye on the Kinesis advantage for a long time. Is there any form of virtual layering like on the ergodox? That’s been a key feature for me with the ergodox and I’d have a hard time living without it.

The new 360 has layering. I use the Kinesis Advantage 2 and I'm not quite sure, I don't think so. Both have a good manual on the website if you want to read about all the features.

There is a way to hack in an open source firmware on the Kinesis Adv2. It's called the stapelberg mod. It has layers and even RGB led to indicate layer.

Re: ErgodoxE EZ – an ergonomic keyboard with open source firmware

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I wish there was a showroom or something I could visit to try them all out and see what fits my hands. I don't mind dropping $300 on a keyboard once, but I don't want to buy 10 different keyboards just to try them and then have to sell the ones I don't want.

look for a /r/mechanicalkeyboard meetup in your area. I wouldn't buy this board, it's a wannabe kinesis advantange but flat. Makes the reach too hard imo.

yeah the domes of the kinesis are definitely great.. everything in reach
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