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Re: Excuse me but why are you eating so many frogs

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Post by istinetz »

mordae wrote: post #109
istinetz wrote: post #37

I strongly disagree with the author. What brings me pleasure is playing strategic computer games. I was addicted to playing dota. I was playing 12-16 hours a day, which left no place for socializing, career, family, even basic self-maintenance suffered. Anything meaningful, art, self-improvement was cut. It's a disgraceful, shameful life. The meaning of life is not the blind pursuit of pleasure. We are humans precise…

> higher purposes I chuckled. I have yet to see one.

I have defined for myself what are the higher purposes I want to follow. It's not an issue of them existing or not, for me the issue is that I am naturally lazy and I do naturally gravitate towards random bullshit, contrary to what the OP blogpost described.

Re: Excuse me but why are you eating so many frogs

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Post by noduerme »

yeah, man's natural state is better than this bitter dystopia.

>> using your “higher faculties” doesn't always leave you better off. As I wrote recently, smart people aren’t happier

glad we've come full circle, all the way through self help gurus back to self-referencing barbarians masquerading as intellectual saviors.

no, the notion of work is not the devil. idle hands are. if you need evidence, check out all the people who apparently don't have to work and spend all their time on tiktok.

Re: Excuse me but why are you eating so many frogs

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Post by mordae »

istinetz wrote: post #111
mordae wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> higher purposes I chuckled. I have yet to see one.

I have defined for myself what are the higher purposes I want to follow. It's not an issue of them existing or not, for me the issue is that I am naturally lazy and I do naturally gravitate towards random bullshit, contrary to what the OP blogpost described.

It's just about personal aesthetics. You no longer like yourself, so you went and started to change yourself to better fit your new aesthetic sense.

Obviously the sense is informed by what you perceive.

You higher could be pretty low for someone else. Like yourself in a couple of years.

It's the biggest lie of them all that some behaviors are higher than other. That's how they sell you church, work week and other frogs.

Why? Because most of us converge on the same basic idea that with cooperation, we can have generally more fun. So we invent ways to get others involved in our shit. Some of it manipulative, because ends justify the means. Well, except when you like to play on hard and limit the set of your means, because it's more fun that way.

Re: Excuse me but why are you eating so many frogs

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Post by ElfinTrousers »

vanderZwan wrote: post #38

> For legal reasons, I’m not saying the people who write this stuff are literally Lucifer in human skin. It’s just that, if I wanted to maximize human misery, I would 100% try to convince people to spend more time doing things they hate When Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchett wrote Good Omens thirty years ago they already hit upon this idea when Crowley, a demon and one of the main characters, tries to explain to his fe…

I also seem to remember that the story went on to say that Crowley at one point had been praised for his work in the Spanish Inquisition. That was the first he'd actually heard of it--humans had come up with it on their own--so he went and had a look, and then went and got blind drunk, because there are some things even demons would rather not think about.

That kind of abrupt tonal slam, from comedy to horror, leaving the reader feeling something like they just had a bucket of cold water unexpectedly poured over them, is classic Sir Pterry too. I read the Discworld series start-to-finish earlier this year as a minor bucket-list project, and I wish he was still around. He had a commendable simmering rage against the powerful and callous that boiled over often, and that's something we could use more of today.

I also did not expect to write a comment today using the word "bucket" in two unrelated idioms, but here we are.

Re: Excuse me but why are you eating so many frogs

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Post by ElfinTrousers »

samatman wrote: post #73
staticassertion wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reminds me of Supernatural's Crowley optimizing hell to just be one big line where everyone just has to stand and wait. The simpler solution.

How would we describe the state of standing and waiting for all eternity? Being in limbo, perhaps?

No, being in limbo is when you try to bend backwards under a stick for all eternity.

[shows self out]

Re: Excuse me but why are you eating so many frogs

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Post by user_7832 »

istinetz wrote: post #37

I strongly disagree with the author. What brings me pleasure is playing strategic computer games. I was addicted to playing dota. I was playing 12-16 hours a day, which left no place for socializing, career, family, even basic self-maintenance suffered. Anything meaningful, art, self-improvement was cut. It's a disgraceful, shameful life. The meaning of life is not the blind pursuit of pleasure. We are humans precise…

Hey OP, do you have issues with time management/procrastination, organization and planning too? If so a) read up about executive disfunction, and b) ask your doctor to test you for AD(H)D. I had a very similar story and struggled with motivation for years, until I realized its a fundamental symptom of AD(H)D that isn't really well discussed.

Re: Excuse me but why are you eating so many frogs

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Post by hirundo »

glandium wrote: post #22
mlok wrote: post #4

As a Frenchman, it took me a while to realize it was supposed to mean "a painful thing to do"

BTW, as a 44 year old French that has never seen frogs on a restaurant menu, and never had any, I wonder how common eating frogs is nowadays. Escargots seem much more common, to cite something else we're known for.

Our local supermarket in an Arizona small town sells frogs right next to the seafood in the meat department. Somebody must be buying them. Though I've never seen them on a local menu. Are they typical in a French grocery?

Re: Excuse me but why are you eating so many frogs

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Post by istinetz »

mordae wrote: post #114
istinetz wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have defined for myself what are the higher purposes I want to follow. It's not an issue of them existing or not, for me the issue is that I am naturally lazy and I do naturally gravitate towards random bullshit, contrary to what the OP blogpost described.

It's just about personal aesthetics. You no longer like yourself, so you went and started to change yourself to better fit your new aesthetic sense. Obviously the sense is informed by what you perceive. You higher could be pretty low for someone else. Like yourself in a couple of years. It's the biggest lie of them all that some behaviors are higher than other. That's how they sell you church, work week and other fro…

>It's the biggest lie of them all that some behaviors are higher than other.

Disagree.

>You higher could be pretty low for someone else. Like yourself in a couple of years.

Possible, but I can console my future self with the fact that at least I'm not a filthy nihilist.

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