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EV adoption in US is happening faster than predicted

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Re: EV adoption in US is happening faster than predicted

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Post by aeharding »

endisneigh wrote: post #74

I love EVs. That being said I wish someone would make an enclosed bicycle/motorcycle that costs less than $2000. Something like that which can go 30mph and had space for 2 days of groceries would be enough for me to eliminate my car all together. I'm cobbling something similar now with a Class 3 cargo ebike, but rain sucks =/ The idealist in me says that electric ebikes could eliminate most of Americas problems in on…

Rain isn't really a problem with the appropriate clothing. (Speaking as someone that rides year round for transportation in Wisconsin.) The only problem I've had is downpours can soak your shoes but I just have an extra pair of shoes at work and at home.

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Post by fy20 »

peyton wrote: post #89
edaemon wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Norway has the highest rate of EV adoption in the world. I live in Minnesota and none of my friends or neighbors have had problems with their EVs. Level 2 charging (i.e. 240V home charging) is not affected by cold temperatures unless it's well below freezing, like below 0 F.

Most Norwegian BEV owners also own an ICE for the winter. Adoption is high due to incentives.

More importantly, most of the places where people live in Norway are not actually that cold. In Oslo it hasn't dropped below -20C / -4F since 2010.

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Post by npunt »

endisneigh wrote: post #74

I love EVs. That being said I wish someone would make an enclosed bicycle/motorcycle that costs less than $2000. Something like that which can go 30mph and had space for 2 days of groceries would be enough for me to eliminate my car all together. I'm cobbling something similar now with a Class 3 cargo ebike, but rain sucks =/ The idealist in me says that electric ebikes could eliminate most of Americas problems in on…

Agree - eBikes solve so many problems if we could only create there infra for them. Aside from co2, which is partially offset by the emissions from materials and manufacture, the only thing EVs really have going for them is less brake dust. However even that may be offset by the additional tire wear due to their weight and which contributes more to poor air quality than ice engines do these days. EVs being heavier also means more road maintenance required.

Basically EVs are just kicking the can down the road a little bit, within the confines of our culture and infrastructure, but do not solve our structural problems.

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Post by sandworm101 »

iknowstuff wrote: post #108
chrisco255 wrote: post #93

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Unless they improve the recharge speed or dramatically improve thr power density, we're gonna have ICEs for a long time. Electric vehicles are not good in cold weather, they so far have not proven themselves to be capable of long haul towing (battery life drops off precipitously while towing), there is not enough charging ports or parking spots for hundreds of millions of cars to recharge, emergency vehicles cannot d…

Norway says hello.

Norway is small (1700km N->S, but a fraction of that E->W.) One can drive it's entire length in a day or two. It is barely half the size of Texas. Nor is Norway very cold. Because it is so close to the sea, temperatures rarely drop below -10c.

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endisneigh wrote: post #74

I love EVs. That being said I wish someone would make an enclosed bicycle/motorcycle that costs less than $2000. Something like that which can go 30mph and had space for 2 days of groceries would be enough for me to eliminate my car all together. I'm cobbling something similar now with a Class 3 cargo ebike, but rain sucks =/ The idealist in me says that electric ebikes could eliminate most of Americas problems in on…

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Post by anonporridge »

rootusrootus wrote: post #27

I have owned a Tesla, and I leased my wife a Bolt a while back. She's convinced, I'm convinced, but with the lease coming to an end next year we probably will not replace the Bolt with another EV. Why? Prices. I was ready to buy a Mach E, but then Ford raised the price something like 6 grand while simultaneously losing the $7500 tax credit. That effectively bumps the price of the car into a territory I don't think ma…

I've seen Rav4 Primes selling for $20k over the $50k premium MSRP. They're not in a better place than regular EVs.

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Post by JKCalhoun »

stevenwoo wrote: post #97
brnt wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's mandatory here in Europe, if you care about being road-legal.

It depends on the state one lives in the USA. For instance in Texas, a garage inspects your vehicle once a year on basic functionality for it to qualify for a sticker one puts on the windshield (automatic ticket if law enforcement stops you with one out of date). In California, one has to get a smog inspection every so often to qualify for the sticker on the license plate to indicate one has paid one's vehicle tax fo…

The smog inspections were every three years? As long as your engine light is not on you didn't need any "servicing".

I was not aware that Texas was that way.

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Post by pcthrowaway »

Swizec wrote: post #17
guidedlight wrote: post #8

Given EV’s should have price parity with ICE by 2025-2027, I think its obvious that EV adoption should accelerate. Unless you are purchasing a very cheap sub-$20k car, EV’s should become the only choice by 2030. https://insideevs.com/news/506465/evs-price-parity-europe-20...

Buying a car right now feels like a tough decision. ICEs are on their way out, even illegal pretty soon, but EVs aren’t quite there yet especially if you live in the city and can’t charge at home. Probably best to wait ~5 years then buy an EV, if you can wait.

Wouldn't hybrids be an acceptable middle ground for right now then? I imagine they won't be illegal any time soon, since it'll probably be at least 2 decades before we see EV infrastructure coverage of 99% of drivers' trips, and that last 1% (think driving around Alaska) will take just as much effort to service as the first 99%

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Post by JKCalhoun »

vkou wrote: post #65
JKCalhoun wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Internal combustion illegal soon? To own? I missed that memo.

Illegal to sell new in a number of jurisdictions, starting sometime in the next 10-to-never years. Would probably put us on track to 3-4 degrees of warming.

Unless it becomes illegal to sell used also then that should not be an issue when deciding what type of car to buy now.
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