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Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Post by no_wizard »

willio58 wrote: post #27

Really sad end for Heroku. They never could find a balance between the free tiers they offered and their overly-expensive paid tiers. Now they're entering purgatory before they are ultimately shut down for good. They had the markings of a long-lasting company in this space but corporate mismanagement has led to this drawn out death for the company. Salesforce buying the company made a few rich, but it really did turn…

Counter point seems to be Slack, which has become better (in my opinion) after the Salesforce Acquisition.

I think the struggle is that Salesforce has never historically offered a platform as a service business that is agnostic to its end goal. I imagine the idea of acquiring Heroku was to make it easy to spin up new Salesforce apps, but I don't know that ever materialized in the way they were hoping.

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Post by duxup »

kretaceous wrote: post #63
craigkerstiens wrote: post #17

This is a sad day. Pricing changes are always hard, and having been through some of the earlier pricing changes at Heroku you can't make everyone happy. But, so many developers deployed their first app on Heroku and was a staple for so many bootcamps. Without it I'm confident we'd have less developers in the world. It is still one of the gold standards for developer experience. Years after its heyday companies and to…

I relate to this. > We appreciate Heroku’s legacy as a learning platform. Many students have their first experience with deploying an application into the wild on Heroku. I'm one of those students. It's good that they will open up something free for students but I suspect it'll never be the same as just signing up and git push heroku master.

It also misses anyone else looking to learn.

Self study folks, anyone without a bootcamp connected to a sales team, non traditional schools ... you're out.

I remember changing careers and studying and a lot of sites promised free stuff but if you weren't connected to whomever they worked with / a traditional school you were kinda SOL unless you wanted to go begging on twitter or something like that.

Granted I get they don't want to just be handing out mass quantities of free stuff too / I'm sure people abuse that to no end.

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Post by 5fnheluzdj »

bradgessler wrote: post #80
aarondf wrote: post #15

Fly.io has a dedicated process for moving off of Heroku. Auth via Heroku and they'll launch your app onto Fly. They also have a free tier. The process: https://fly.io/launch/heroku The docs: https://fly.io/docs/app-guides/speed-up-a-heroku-app I haven't used it [the Heroku -> Fly process] myself, but it's been around for quite some time!

Please let me know in the replies what you'd like to see at Fly that would make it as good, if not better, than Heroku. I recently started working at Fly to focus on making Rails & Ruby app deployments awesome, and of course Heroku set that benchmark almost a decade ago. I can't promise I'll get to everything, but I can promise that it will help me better prioritize what I should be focusing on to make Fly better for…

On the top of my list is being able to use a local repository and providing no credit card.

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Post by aarondf »

altilunium wrote: post #108
aarondf wrote: post #15

Fly.io has a dedicated process for moving off of Heroku. Auth via Heroku and they'll launch your app onto Fly. They also have a free tier. The process: https://fly.io/launch/heroku The docs: https://fly.io/docs/app-guides/speed-up-a-heroku-app I haven't used it [the Heroku -> Fly process] myself, but it's been around for quite some time!

I just tried it. Apparently, unlike heroku free tier, you need to add payment information on fly.io in order to use their free tier.

Given that Heroku is killing their free tier because of "fraud and abuse" I'm pretty ok with Fly requiring a CC for their free tier. Requiring a legit CC has to cut that by a substantial amount, I'd think.

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Post by driverdan »

Varqu wrote: post #88
craigkerstiens wrote: post #17

This is a sad day. Pricing changes are always hard, and having been through some of the earlier pricing changes at Heroku you can't make everyone happy. But, so many developers deployed their first app on Heroku and was a staple for so many bootcamps. Without it I'm confident we'd have less developers in the world. It is still one of the gold standards for developer experience. Years after its heyday companies and to…

In our case, this would mean increasing our Heroku bill by 400% (we run a few paid apps and >40 free dynos with super low monthly activity) Does anyone have a recommendation how to re-create the Heroku experience on AWS or Azure?

GCP Cloud Run is very inexpensive if you use docker.

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Post by jonplackett »

Getting rid of free tier is super short sighted.

I always start a project on a free / hobby tier. I’ll have a few going and they’ll be using basically zero resources because they have no visitors except testers and alpha / beta users.

When a project is ready - click - I switch to paid and start paying. Probably also add the cloudfront add-on. Maybe a faster database etc

If I have to go build the beta version somewhere else (Vercel most likely) I’m not going to switch back to Heroku to host the paid version. I’ve been dealt liking Vercel lately so this is a good excuse to move everting (free and paid) over there.

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Post by Varqu »

ivalm wrote: post #102
Varqu wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In our case, this would mean increasing our Heroku bill by 400% (we run a few paid apps and >40 free dynos with super low monthly activity) Does anyone have a recommendation how to re-create the Heroku experience on AWS or Azure?

With some investment in infra as code we have a similar experience on aws. GitHub actions + terraform targeting ECS on fargate (pay for usage). Push to main build the container, pushes to elastic registry, makes the task/service, configures alba, etc.

Would you mind sharing how many working days went into building it?

This was exactly what we tried to avoid with our (rather small) dev team.

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Post by [deleted] »

countspongebob wrote: post #82
joshstrange wrote: post #26

So their next chapter is obscurity followed by shutting down? It was clear even before their horribly bungled GitHub security incident that Heroku was on life support at best and it's been a long time since "Heroku" was the answer to "What PaaS should I use?". The beancounters took control a while back and are sucking all they can out of it before they discard it's empty shell. Having Heroku as your PaaS provider see…

We are not shutting it down. As I said in the blog, our priority is making sure that Heroku choice is a good business decision for critical apps of all sizes. This does have tradeoffs, but getting the rug pulled out is not one of them - the opposite.

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Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Post by Varqu »

driverdan wrote: post #116
Varqu wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In our case, this would mean increasing our Heroku bill by 400% (we run a few paid apps and >40 free dynos with super low monthly activity) Does anyone have a recommendation how to re-create the Heroku experience on AWS or Azure?

GCP Cloud Run is very inexpensive if you use docker.

Thanks, however, we will never use GCP (avoiding Google products due to their random AI bans)
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