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A dad took photos of his toddler for a doctor – Google flagged him as a criminal

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Re: A dad took photos of his toddler for a doctor – Google flagged him as a criminal

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> Not only did he lose emails, contact information for friends and former colleagues, and documentation of his son’s first years of life, his Google Fi account shut down, meaning he had to get a new phone number with another carrier. Without access to his old phone number and email address, he couldn’t get the security codes he needed to sign in to other internet accounts, locking him out of much of his digital life.…

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Re: A dad took photos of his toddler for a doctor – Google flagged him as a criminal

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Not sure where you'd upload the photos to Google domains? Assuming, of course, that you don't use your personal account for your domains - that'd be crazy!

If it’s personal domains, then it would make sense to use a personal account.

Never ever use your personal Google account for anything you don't want to lose. You haven't seen all the horror stories the past few years?

Re: A dad took photos of his toddler for a doctor – Google flagged him as a criminal

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If it’s personal domains, then it would make sense to use a personal account.

Not to mention Google will link accounts and ban across them.

No, they won't necessarily. I have a few banned accounts and a few working ones. Not saying it never happens - I bet it does. But not always.

Re: A dad took photos of his toddler for a doctor – Google flagged him as a criminal

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I'm an atheist, and I intensely disagree with the sexualisation of everything in our society dressed as a new sexual revolution, and see it as a direct effect of capitalism. What say you

I think you'll have to expand a bit on that. 1)Government makes companies liable for hosted third party content 2)Companies set up workflows to detect said content 3)??? 4)Blame capitalism

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Re: A dad took photos of his toddler for a doctor – Google flagged him as a criminal

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> A Google spokeswoman said the company stands by its decisions, even though law enforcement cleared the two men. Wow. Just wow. This is worse than the usual Google's automated screw-ups. In this case, Google was notified of the issue by the NYT. Yet they actively chose to continue to screw over their victims just because they can. > In a statement, Google said, “Child sexual abuse material is abhorrent and we’re com…

What do you think is the ratio of innocent to nefarious pictures of naked children Google encounters in aggregate? This is relevant to how outraged one should be by this story. I think it is probably > 1:100000. As such, probably not much outrage is warranted, although it’s obviously not great for this one guy.

Well as a data point I have pictures of my children naked. As another data point my parents have photos of me as a child naked, and as a third data point my grandparents have photos of themselves as children naked. Whereas I don't knowingly know any paedophiles.

Re: A dad took photos of his toddler for a doctor – Google flagged him as a criminal

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"The word fascism has now no meaning except in so far as it signals 'something not desirable.'" --George Orwell

Yeah also think the word/concept fascism doesn’t fit here. While it is obviously oppressive or unjust, it is a company, so what would be a better fit?

It's literally capitalism. It's the system that Google was allowed to thrive in and become this powerful.

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controversial opinion: as much as everybody knows that China isn't exactly championing the western way of life and western democratic standards, I keep my private files in a Chinese cloud (backups are kept private in a NAS in my house). Why? Because they are not in contact with our authorities and, frankly, the chances my private files will be of any interest for Chinese authorities are close to zero. Not that I have…

TBH my worry in this sort of setup is China cutting you off. Say tensions increase and the CCP throws down a decree that says all Chinese sites must block themselves from being reached by the US/Western Countries.

Re: A dad took photos of his toddler for a doctor – Google flagged him as a criminal

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controversial opinion: as much as everybody knows that China isn't exactly championing the western way of life and western democratic standards, I keep my private files in a Chinese cloud (backups are kept private in a NAS in my house). Why? Because they are not in contact with our authorities and, frankly, the chances my private files will be of any interest for Chinese authorities are close to zero. Not that I have…

This. China, unlike the U.S., is not gonna ask other countries to extradite me if they ever find me in violation of whatever bullshit law they have.

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Re: A dad took photos of his toddler for a doctor – Google flagged him as a criminal

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What do you think is the ratio of innocent to nefarious pictures of naked children Google encounters in aggregate? This is relevant to how outraged one should be by this story. I think it is probably > 1:100000. As such, probably not much outrage is warranted, although it’s obviously not great for this one guy.

Wow, I'd guess the opposite when we consider the base rate. Seems like a classic Bayesian problem. It's fairly normal for parents to take pictures of their children naked in the bathtub/at the beach/ camping/etc. Conversely, I'd expect actual pedophiles and CSAM producers to be really quite rare. So even a relatively low base-rate of normal parents with normal nude photos would likely dwarf CSAM upon detection. So, i…

> It's fairly normal for parents to take pictures of their children naked in the bathtub/at the beach/ camping/etc.

And what I understand is that each of these private photos of their children that parents take on an Android phone with Google cloud enabled gets specifically flagged to be shown to a stranger working for Google.

That sounds pretty insane to me.

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