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Kitsault, Canada’s $50M 1980s ghost town

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Re: Kitsault, Canada’s $50M 1980s ghost town

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Its more that why does the panhandle exist at all, it should all be BC.

American politicians and capitalists realized how valuable the western half of the continent before British Canada did and they acted on it. If you look as the west coast it’s mostly American coast, it’s kind of surprising that Americans didn’t just take it all when you think about it

They've got plenty, and it's not like the US is big commercial shipping country. Not even a factor really.

Re: Kitsault, Canada’s $50M 1980s ghost town

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Out of curiosity I looked it up on a map [1]. It appears two of the closest settlements [2],[3] are also ghost towns or otherwise pretty much abandoned. Kind of nice to know there are habitable but uninhabited places left in the world. [1] https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=Kitsault+%2C+BC&ia=web&iaxm... [2] https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Arm,_British_Columbia [3] https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Anyox

The DDG map link for Kitsault seems pretty off. It shows me a nearby location called "Alice Arm", instead of actual Kitsault.

Re: Kitsault, Canada’s $50M 1980s ghost town

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

American politicians and capitalists realized how valuable the western half of the continent before British Canada did and they acted on it. If you look as the west coast it’s mostly American coast, it’s kind of surprising that Americans didn’t just take it all when you think about it

They've got plenty, and it's not like the US is big commercial shipping country. Not even a factor really.

Look at Alaska’s natural resource industry and tell me that wasn’t a good investment for the US

Re: Kitsault, Canada’s $50M 1980s ghost town

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I just emailed them asking if they are doing anything with it. They responded and sent me here: http://www.kitsaultenergy.com/index.html

North of Jasper but closer to the sea, and right next door to Alaska. Interesting spot but be prepared to add substantial cost of transportation to every molecule you may require.

Re: Kitsault, Canada’s $50M 1980s ghost town

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They've got plenty, and it's not like the US is big commercial shipping country. Not even a factor really.

Look at Alaska’s natural resource industry and tell me that wasn’t a good investment for the US

Long term any kind of land is a good investment.

Re: Kitsault, Canada’s $50M 1980s ghost town

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I agree! I would totally move there assuming life support. Health, Food, Power, Heat, Water. What do for work - and if trying to make a Hacker Commune, how structure (I actually lived on a commune and know how badly they are managed)

StarLink. Remote work outpost. AirBnB it too maybe?

I’m in. Is there some crypto angle? (totes!!)

Re: Kitsault, Canada’s $50M 1980s ghost town

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Yeah, this kind of split-level design was super common in the PNW and 1980s isn't even particularly old when it comes to housing (plenty of houses in the Seattle metro area that are from the '20s...). Like here's a random listing from 30 seconds of searching that has light renovations: https://www.redfin.com/WA/Seattle/10201-23rd-Ct-SW-98146/hom... and if you spend enough time looking for "affordable" options in subu…

My realtor says that split level design is known locally as the "BC Box"

Close relative of the "Vancouver Special"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vancouver_Special

Re: Kitsault, Canada’s $50M 1980s ghost town

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FYI: This Justin McElroy is a respected Canadian journalist. He is not closely related to the Justin McElroy of MBMBAM though they do look very similar.

Why the italics on 'closely'?

Getting out front of the pedants.

Re: Kitsault, Canada’s $50M 1980s ghost town

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(At the risk of sounding uninformed) - why?

Due to spherical geometry, Prince Rupert is closer to Asia than any other reasonable North American port (sorry, Skagway) south of Anchorage. Kitsault is just up the inlet, and much easier to reach (crossing the Coast Mountains sunk Prince Rupert). It also happens to be easier (lower) to cross the Rockies (CA-16) when you're north of Prince George, so Kitsault could possibly have better access to Chicago than does, s…

There's rail access to Port Edward (just a couple miles from Prince Rupert) currently, going by what you can see in Google Maps. Looks like it follows a pretty flat route, though it winds around to follow the shorelines / rivers.

I wonder how much sea level rise or flooding it would take to inundate that rail line and the Yellowhead highway? They seem like they're barely above water level now.

Using Kisault as a port is an interesting idea. Worth mentioning that the tides in that area are huge, which makes for dangerous currents.

(Random personal trivia: I once passed within about 20 miles of Kisault while travelling to the Queen Charlotte islands by way of Prince Rupert. The 800 passenger ferry we took, The Queen of the North, some years later got off course on a different route and struck a rock at full speed and sank. Almost everyone got off.)

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