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Re: Tell HN: Apple Pay works in non-Safari browsers in iOS 16 Beta 3

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I share your concerns but the immediate response I have to them is "needs more regulation." We shouldn't let Meta take advantage of regulations towards Apple. We should use it as an opportunity to write more regulation of both of these entities for the purpose of serving the end user.

More regulations to fix the regulations?

Yes, it's obvious that big tech has been insufficiently regulated.

What solutions do you propose?

Re: Tell HN: Apple Pay works in non-Safari browsers in iOS 16 Beta 3

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Alternatively we may end up with better app stores with far less malware and trash. As much as apple enthusiasts like to claim the app store is as good as it can get, there's a ton of room for improvement IMO. Just getting rid of the games that prey on children and addiction would be a good start.

Children and addiction are your two problems with the App Store? How exactly do think a third-party free-for-all set of app stores is going to do better?

I think niche app stores will be able to engage is much stricter moderation. For example, a kids only store could focus on knowing their developers and forbidding in app purchases.

Re: Tell HN: Apple Pay works in non-Safari browsers in iOS 16 Beta 3

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Probably preparations due to the upcoming EU framework. As a short summary, here are some of the new EU requirements on gatekeepers such as Apple. Gatekeepers must: - Allow users to install apps from third-party app stores and sideload directly from the internet. - Allow developers to offer third-party payment systems in apps and promote offers outside the gatekeeper's platforms. - Allow developers to integrate their…

It seems like every perceived problem these days is grounds for legislation. Let’s work on additive solutions as opposed to regulation.

Today's hardest problems require government action. Techno-optimism and the free market fairy will not save us.

Re: Tell HN: Apple Pay works in non-Safari browsers in iOS 16 Beta 3

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It seems like every perceived problem these days is grounds for legislation. Let’s work on additive solutions as opposed to regulation.

Today's hardest problems require government action. Techno-optimism and the free market fairy will not save us.

Do you consider this particular example a hard problem? I'm sure I agree with your statement but we probably disagree on what constitutes a problem and whether that problem is "hard" and thus needs government intervention.

Re: Tell HN: Apple Pay works in non-Safari browsers in iOS 16 Beta 3

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More regulations to fix the regulations?

Yes, it's obvious that big tech has been insufficiently regulated. What solutions do you propose?

The solution shouldn't be worse than the problem it's solving. The default position should be "do nothing."

Re: Tell HN: Apple Pay works in non-Safari browsers in iOS 16 Beta 3

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What App Store privacy rules are you concerned about?

I'm not sure if this is exactly what you're asking about, but submitting an app to the App Store currently performs pretty stringent checks on things the app does — including automated scanning for usage of private system APIs and ensuring that apps include appropriate reasons for asking for access to private data (contacts, photos, location data, etc.). Without certain forms of review, it's much easier for apps to e…

Automated scanning is already accomplished outside the App Store on macOS via notarization.
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