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Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

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The ending is rather unexpected: > despite all of this, i still mostly love Amazon as a customer. it played a big role in getting my e-commerce business off of the ground and i'm grateful for that. "It's a flea market full of cheap (and sometimes dangerous) junk, but I still love it!"

It's a hostage situation. This is how you can tell Amazon is a dangerous monopoly: when even the people they fuck over have no choice but to smile and say, "But we still love 'em!"

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

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Pro tip: If you absolutely must buy the junk being sold by MOFFBUZW and other randomly generated drop-shipper brands, the exact same product is usually available on AliExpress for 10% the price.

I don't like having to give AliExpress my phone number.

having been personally harassed repeatedly over the phone by Amazon third party sellers... Amazon is not any better

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think amazon has jumped the shark[1] There is no practical way to buy a reputable/brand name on amazon. Some brand names are "available", but it seems not officially and people are buying them at a store and shipping them to customers. Other brand names are available, but the search results are paid (and manipulated) so they get crowded off the page by sponsored and "5 star (2)" results. and so amazon as a brand is…

The problem I’m having in Germany ist that only Amazon reliable delivers to my door, usually next day. Every other store ships with DHL, which after several days pretends that they ring you, when they don’t, and then u can go pick it up at the DHL store a day later. That’s their moat.

Weird, DHL is for me the best and most professional of all. The experience you mentioned happens to me with DPD and very often with GLS. Hermes is also pretty good and professional.

Maybe it depends on the location...

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

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I’ve been slowly trying to de-amazon my life, even more aggressively than trying to de-google (which is easy once you accept that search result quality is still good elsewhere). I got a Shoprunner account and Walmart plus from AMEX and recently started using it. I also found that VISA gets you a shipt account.

Shoprunner let’s you buy direct from brand with 2 day shipping, so you don’t need to lose that benefit, while avoid “mass marketplace” mis-incentives of amazon like fake products. It has the benefit of being good on clothing, which amazon was never a great destination for.

I haven’t used the Walmart “prime-equivilent” benefit, but it seems pretty comparable to amazon prime but at a retailer that has quality control (of some basic level). I’m just not much of a Walmart user.

Shipt gets you “Same day” delivery from stores like target, which is a good counter to the growing same day delivery amazon has been rolling out. I found that its way worse than amazon though, since Shipt is “gig workers” and doesn’t connect to the store’s inventory very well, so you never really know if your order will be fulfilled in full. I use this for last-minute target orders when I don’t have time to visit the store.

Shopify is rolling out a bunch of competing features, but the most useful one is that they’ll provide a single app to track your purchases, which means you don’t need 20 apps on your phone for each retailer just to track that one package a month you order (or more if that’s you).

Oh and now you have a bunch of accounts that you have to give your data to and hope they don’t get breached.

TLDR: It’s really hard to de-amazon if you’re a regular and hooked on the convenience BUT capitalism at work is providing alternatives slowly…

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You sometimes can't even get the right thing from official brand stores. I bought a thermal paste product from the official Amazon ThermalGrizzly store (I did check) but Amazon delivered me a fake. Amazon co-mingles inventory. The only reason I could quickly tell it was fake is because ThermalGrizzly provides an online serial number verification system, which isn't very common among most products. I'm not sure I'd tr…

You have to evaluate if a product is worth counterfeiting. For many goods the clone factories aren't going to bother. Amazon is also a convenient onshore gateway to Aliexpress resellers with less shipping ambiguity.

>You have to evaluate if a product is worth counterfeiting.

this does not seem to be worthwhile for someone wanting to purchase something, my estimates as to if something is worth counterfeiting requires me to have a rather deep understanding of the brand's importance in the world that I would not have for any but the most notable brands, aside from that I have to know something about how easy/costly it is to counterfeit and get things on Amazon to make a model in my mind if the brand was important enough for someone to fake it.

So, for example, if it becomes significantly cheaper to counterfeit things the importance of brands counterfeited (in consumer reach etc.) should drop.

That's a lot of variables. Think I'll just go to the store.

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

#118

The New York Times did some decent reporting into the pseudo-brands which comes closer to answering the question in the title: having a registered trademark unlocks a lot of on-platform seller tools (predictive analytics, early review program, etc.), and the easiest path to a trademark is to have an utterly unique, nonsense name. Some Chinese municipalities were also offering cash incentives for citizens who obtained…

Thank you. I read the whole thread and then realized it didn't answer the question posed in the first tweet.

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

#119
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Shopping on amazon is really an awful experience nowdays. I really do not want to search through 40 pages of water kettles of really dubious brands. It is so anxiety inducing and unpleasant.

I play a lot of card games with my kids. I wanted a new card shuffler. All I got was pages of the same 3 models of shuffler from every nonsense name brand you could think of. But really just 3 choices…

It's like how every wall clock you buy - from Aliexpress to Crate & Barrel - will have the same cheap mechanism running the arms: https://www.amazon.com/Include-Movement-Mechanism-Operated-R...

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

#120

Is it correct to say that when you get something "shipped and sold by Amazon.com", it really comes from them? It's the "fulfilled by Amazon" (the infamous FBA) that you need to watch out for. It's a bit screwy, but you can filter by seller by clicking into a specific product category, and then selecting Amazon.com in the bar on the left. Then all the items should be "shipped and sold by Amazon.com". But I've been sor…

I’m actually not sure that’s a safe assumption. I could be wrong but I believe Amazon co-mingles products of the same SKU. So if Amazon is selling a book and other sellers have listed the same item as “new” and sent it to Amazon’s warehouse I don’t believe there is any distinction between the two at the warehouse. So the stock picker might grab Amazon’s (presumably authentic) item from the bin when they pack your order but there’s also a chance they’ll grab the third-party-seller “shipped by Amazon” item. My understanding is that it’s all kind of a crapshoot no matter how careful & deliberate you are when ordering.
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