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RSS is back as an underpinning to SlackOps

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Re: RSS is back as an underpinning to SlackOps

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Post by reaperducer »

remram wrote: post #62
reaperducer wrote: post #48

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Not a complete solution to your problem, but the New York Times at least offers different RSS feeds for different sections. So you can have a different feed for Science and Technology, and one for Australia, and one for New York. By not using the front page firehose, you can keep the number of inbound articles to a more manageable level.

The BBC as well: https://www.bbc.com/news/10628494 ("top stories", "world", "politics", "health", "technology", ...) Though like many sites, I have no idea how you would reach the "feeds" page from the front page (I gave up and searched Google for it)

If you have Reeder, you just paste the regular web page URL into it and it tries to figure out the RSS address on its own. It's possible that other RSS readers do the same, since the RSS information is usually in the page's metadata.

Re: RSS is back as an underpinning to SlackOps

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Post by stanislavb »

powersnail wrote: post #26

RSS has been alive this whole time. Blogs usually have it by default, the big news organizations have it. The only thing I'm not satisfied with reading news on RSS, is that news organizations push too many articles, to the point that reading the headlines alone takes quite some time. There's nearly 100 articles per day per source sometimes. Unlike a newspaper, which has a natural structure of priority and hierarchy,…

That's one of the reasons I build lenns.io. An alternative RSS reader. I gives you some additional vectors of control. For example, you can limit the number of items per source to show on your feed, as well as assign priorities to both sources and categories. Combined - it gives you a calm feed following all the sources your are interested in.

I'd be more than happy if you give it a go and share how it seems.

Re: RSS is back as an underpinning to SlackOps

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Post by thaumasiotes »

jethro_tell wrote: post #45
thaumasiotes wrote: post #41

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The word never made much sense though. A "podcast" is a file that you download from the internet. What's the point of calling it a podcast?

And yet here we are clicking a floppy disk icon to save it. Language and meaning change over time. That's OK.

This doesn't seem particularly closely related to the discussion. The meaning of "podcast" hasn't changed. Instead, the question is "why bother distinguishing podcasts from other mp3 files that you also download off the internet?". If someone records an album and puts it up for sale online, how is that not a "podcast"?

Re: RSS is back as an underpinning to SlackOps

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Post by stanislavb »

ecliptik wrote: post #36
powersnail wrote: post #26

RSS has been alive this whole time. Blogs usually have it by default, the big news organizations have it. The only thing I'm not satisfied with reading news on RSS, is that news organizations push too many articles, to the point that reading the headlines alone takes quite some time. There's nearly 100 articles per day per source sometimes. Unlike a newspaper, which has a natural structure of priority and hierarchy,…

Newsblur has a training feature [1], with a thumbs up/down on article tags, author, and keywords in a title that can bubble up more interesting articles or completely hide them. Unfortunately training is per feed, there's a newer Premium Pro tier with global training coming out with it, but it is much more expensive [2]. 1. https://www.newsblur.com/faq (under Intelligence section) 2. https://forum.newsblur.com/t/glob…

Hey mate, you can give a go to lenns.io (an opinionated RSS reader). You can assign different priorities to both sources and categories to have the important (for you) articles show first.

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Post by PeterisP »

uoaei wrote: post #100
mh- wrote: post #92

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Wow, $299/year. you weren't kidding. I assume this is targeted at professionals that are trying to stay abreast of developments around certain topics/subjects. If you think about it through that lens it's reasonably priced, I suppose.

Yes. Feedly seems to be marketing itself at investors and speculators lately (or trading bots I suppose), because they're using NLP to highlight and categorize articles based on whether they mention acquisitions, mergers, leadership changes, etc.

Feedly seems to be marketing itself as whatever interest group they think you are, because they're using NLP to highlight and categorize articles but at least for me not regarding whether they mention acquisitions, mergers, leadership changes, etc (though some of the articles my feed do) but rather whether they mention new security vulnerabilities or attacks - and I'd guess the same for many other specific niche domains.

Re: RSS is back as an underpinning to SlackOps

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Post by remram »

reaperducer wrote: post #111
remram wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The BBC as well: https://www.bbc.com/news/10628494 ("top stories", "world", "politics", "health", "technology", ...) Though like many sites, I have no idea how you would reach the "feeds" page from the front page (I gave up and searched Google for it)

If you have Reeder, you just paste the regular web page URL into it and it tries to figure out the RSS address on its own. It's possible that other RSS readers do the same, since the RSS information is usually in the page's metadata.

Yeah there is usually a but none to be found on bbc.co.uk...

Re: RSS is back as an underpinning to SlackOps

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Post by aendruk »

zja wrote: post #118
aendruk wrote: post #33

A timely observation. I’ve just been setting up the /feed command for ops notifications in a local tech group’s Matrix space.

How have you been doing that? I'm new to using matrix, is that a builtin functionality or an extension to the client you use?

Just a few days. It’s done by running an external service that joins rooms and listens for commands. We’re using maubot [1] since it’s one of the more popular ones, but it has some rough edges [2] [3] [4]. Our setup for just the “rss” plugin is dockerized and documented here [5].

[1]: https://github.com/maubot/maubot#readme

[2]: https://github.com/maubot/maubot/issues/110

[3]: https://github.com/maubot/maubot/pull/147#issuecomment-99722...

[4]: https://github.com/maubot/rss/pull/35

[5]: https://github.com/SeaGL/matrix-feed-notifications

Re: RSS is back as an underpinning to SlackOps

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Post by pinkano »

AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #30
amerine wrote: post #3

All I see is people claiming RSS is dead, but I never stopped. Moving between various readers and landed on Feedly for iOS a few years ago. Love it.

I dropped Feedly because I found that 90%+ of my feeds would only put the article title and the first sentence into the feed, then require I click the URL to pull up the full article. It wasn't very fun constantly having to switch between my RSS app and my browser, so I just stopped using it.

We let publishers decide whether to showcase their content via a full feed (ie. full text and multimedia content can be read through a reader app) or a partial feed (ie. only showing limited text, inviting readers to browse full-content directly on their website). The choice is entirely in their hands.

Some publishers offer full RSS feeds as one of the benefits of their subscriptions. It might be something to explore for your favorite must-read sources.

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